"one in ten go mad, one in five cracks up" is the official tagline of ILE
― mh, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
Paul Reiser as Carter Burke if Burke was actually a halfway decent dude and got to be in charge of things. Good casting. (Aside from insinuating to Jonathan and Nancy that he'd straight-up kill them if necessary.)
This season of this show is the most anyone has said "Radio Shack" on television in at least a decade.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 02:16 (six years ago) link
honestly this was moderately enjoyable garbage.
i did get a kick out of "kid thinks he's in ET but really he's in Gremlins" and i was really glad to see the Smoke Monster from L O S T can still get work and Hellboy is generally great but... that's about it really?
i mean, if I'm charitable the arc is Eleven Finds Her Way Back but really there was no story to speak of, featuring maybe three characters worth giving a shit about, set in a Fake 80s that's mostly stupid when it's not actively irritating (get stuffed, United Punks of Benetton)
can't wait for season 3!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
i was surprised they had metal dude's dad call him a 'faggot'. that's a fairly realistic insult for the time but you'd think they would have sidestepped that.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
It’s shown in an unquestionably negative light, at least
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link
Didn't see the new It but that f-word pops up there, too, if I read correctly. Period slur!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link
Netflix episode dumps are annoying inasmuch as it eliminates one's ability to discuss a show until one has watched the whole damn thing. So I'm not reading anything upthread just yet, but with one episode to go I'll declare this to be pretty damn good. The only time it lost me a little was with Kali and the Dream Warriors (although I did appreciate the Invisibles-related graffiti in their clubhouse and, I suppose, not-so-subtle allusion that they're basically an Invisibles cell). At any rate: derivative shmerivative, I say. Derivative shmerivative.
― Winky Carrothers (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
yeah i think ppl overstate teh derivative-ness although i feel like w this season it starts to become more self-conscious & could easily veer as irritating as the people over-complaining about it
we did not invent retromania
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
Some serious T2 vibes in the lift scene at the end, and I'm sure the soundtrack to that part was lifted directly from Bladerunner 2048??
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
i don't find this show derivative at all. that's the wrong word entirely.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link
like, sure it's referential, reverential but it's hardly 'hey guys I got a Rubik's Cube', nor is the plot or the acting or anything about it particularly 'derivative' of anything happening on TV right now. It could so easily be a spoof of eighties VCR culture but I don't get that really
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
This show is so weird, I don't really care about any particular character and it's frequently ridiculous but very enjoyable to watch. I think it's the period detail that keeps me going.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
i liked the LOTR 'ringwraith' style scene too, nice touch
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
i'm only two eps in but the use of music is ridiculously ott. i love a good soundtrack and i'm fine with them mining the era but let a scene breathe ffs, the first 10 scenes in ep 1 all come with a piece of music, it makes the show feel less like a story and more like a series of montages.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link
Agree that the Chicago parts were largely pointless. It's like 'we need Eleven to get lost somewhere' and they came up with this dumb Inception-meets-Matrix thing with these too-cool-for-school cyber-punks diversion to keep her busy for a whole episode.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
https://www.avclub.com/explaining-stranger-things-most-obscure-reference-1820037980
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE7TS2Rituo
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
once Ready Player One hits theaters you will remember Stranger Things as a high water mark of referential subtlety
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
The more I read about the references, the happier I am that I have never seen Aliens, the Matrix, Goonies, nor Gremlins (and am unfamiliar with The Invisibles).
But then, maybe it's like loving Paul's Boutique, but never having heard Curtis Mayfield, the Beatles, or Sly.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
It's pretty hilarious when they score a non-supernatural character moment with a menacing synth drone.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
I'm wondering what Tarfumes actually has seen, now
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
*puts hand up* I've never seen the Goonies (all the way through. I've caught a bit of it on TV while flicking channels)
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
The fact that this show is so on the nose as Goonies meets X-Files is exactly its flaw.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
I didn't see Goonies until maybe 5 years ago.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
imo that one's a fair omission
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
I can say at the very least that this show is better than The Goonies.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
Although I kind of feel like Explorers is an even more accurate reference point than Goonies.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
haha I watched that last year w the kids at a relative's house and yes
not a good film
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
(it works okay until the aliens actually show up)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
― mh, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:17 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In terms of references in the show, Ghostbusters, E.T....and yeah, that's pretty much it.
I was more into comedies at that age; wasn't interested in a lot of scary/supernatural stuff.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
Just looked through a list of films from '85 and here are my reference predictions for next season:
Back to the FutureRamboReal GeniusDay of the DeadMad Max Beyond ThunderdomePee-Wee's Big AdventureSilver BulletTeen WolfGhouliesKrush GrooveKiss of the Spider WomanWeird ScienceTampopoMaskSanta Claus: the MovieThe Color Purple (obligatory Spielberg)Re-AnimatorPolice Academy 2CocoonGrace QuigleyThe Goonies
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
The more I read about the references, the happier I am that I have never seen Aliens, the Matrix, Goonies, nor Gremlins (and am unfamiliar with The Invisibles).The Invisibles is a comic from the '90s and '00s, it's not the same type of reference as the rest of the series is trucking in
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Which makes the whole homage kind of jarring tbh
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:28 (one hour ago) Permalink
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (one hour ago) Permalink
OTM, however I watched the shit out of it as one of the few VHS tapes we owned.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
I assume it's as clumsy and stupid as the refs to Under the Skin in S1
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
With Under the Skin they were basically just ripping off a cool visual
It's a lot clumsier than that
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
I think all of S3 should be a blatant Mac and Me homage.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
The main characters in The Invisibles are a five person group of violent punk rebels with psychic powers, fighting against a nefarious conspiracy involving the government and other authorities. It's not really a particularly blatant lift, the motivation of the group in the comic is completely different, and presumably so is that of the bad guys.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
Yes, which makes it all the more inexplicable
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
As people have already mentioned, the whole psychic kids scenario in ST is more reminiscent of Akira than the Invisibles.xpost
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
As I mention, the only reason I made the connection was the explicit Invisibles-related graffiti in the background during their scenes.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
It's not really a particularly blatant lift
King Mob graffiti sounds p fucking blatant to me
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
I meant lift in the sense that they'd borrowed the plot of the comic. The graffiti are just a cute little shout-out.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
in a show composed entirely of cute little shout-outs
idk why I'm on this thread, I'm not watching this and will duck out
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
it's just...odd that they would shout out such a 90s artefact in a (ostensibly) none more 80s show
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
I thought you were gonna let us enjoy our sub-literate derivative nonsense
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
Maybe they just wrote the episode, then realised the characters were unintentionally similar to the Invisibles, and decided to add the graffiti to acknowledge the similarity?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure they were explicitly intended to be the Invisibles. Eleven kept saying stuff like, "hey, Invisibles, where am I?" and "hey, Invisibles, where is the bathroom?". IIRC.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
Well, TBH, in that one scene Kali did make them *invisible* to the cops.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
Your honor, the prosecution rests.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link