Post a controversial opinion

eh they both suck

alfred with the tru controversial opinion

incidentally i define "the press" as a method of redistribution of ideas, by which standard any given newspaper or magazine is dwarfed by, is a mere appendage to, sites like youtube, facebook, and twitter

The first part of your controp doesn't seem that controversial: surely the point is that 'freedom of propaganda' is desirable and preferable to a monopoly on propaganda.

The second part seems to assume that there is some authority who can be trusted with knowing the truth and expressing it without bias.

my cat would be horrible at bird hunting, which is why he lives indoors

someone needs to tell him that, because he thinks winter is coming and he needs double food portions to fatten up

The second part seems to assume that there is some authority who can be trusted with knowing the truth and expressing it without bias.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r)

no, only that there is some authority which can be trusted with knowing certain limited forms of truth and taking action against publications which redistribute information which directly contradicts those forms of truth

to your first point, the tutsis and hutus had "freedom of propaganda". was that desirable?

I'll admit to not knowing a lot about Rwanda but I feel like the biggest problems had to do with something other than freedom of propaganda.

dog owners feel a lack of control in their lives and a gnawing emptiness and feel the need to dominate something. owning a dog is ALL about domination. cat owners are independent thinkers who don't feel the need to assert control over the world. but both cat and dog owners are contributing to the destruction of the planet because more hamburger meat.

who are these monsters feeding hamburger meat to their pets

America’s 180 million or so Rovers and Fluffies gulp down about 25 percent of all the animal-derived calories consumed in the United States each year, according to Okin’s calculations. If these pets established a sovereign nation, it would rank fifth in global meat consumption.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/08/04/the-hidden-environmental-costs-of-dog-and-cat-food/?utm_term=.01d2b8247331

My uncle used to have a pet piranha, and he fed that burgers. xp

owning a dog is ALL about domination.

Thread delivers.

if you want to be needed, get a dog. if you want to make a case for being wanted, which may or may not be accepted, get a cat.

If these pets established a sovereign nation

brb gonna pitch a movie

if you want to dispose of unwanted hamburger meat, get a piranha

you need a few, those things are jerks and only eat every few days

when I was in college some guys down the hall had one and wanted to feed it as a form of entertainment but you can just keep throwing meat in there

or can't, rather. I guess you can but you end up with an aquarium full of raw meat

you're talking about frat guys, right?

my cat would be horrible at bird hunting, which is why he lives indoors

― mh

This is, ofcourse, exactly the other way around. He's horrible at it because he doesn't have to.

I've a cat and live in the country side, he takes care of most of his dinners himself (field mice etc).

shhh you're fucking with my controversial opinion

oic ;)

incidentally i define "the press" as a method of redistribution of ideas, by which standard any given newspaper or magazine is dwarfed by, is a mere appendage to, sites like youtube, facebook, and twitter

Maybe not in the US but freedom of the press can be regulated reasonably easily, at least on paper, in a lot of countries. The UK issues broadcast licenses that can be revoked. It has a weak system of press complaints that can potentially censure newspapers for bad behaviour. The threat of libel actions is an additional check, of sorts.

Reframing "the press" as any platform in which randos can share ideas makes that regulation much more difficult. "Twitter should have a legal obligation to delete anything that isn't true" would be a legit controversial opinion, though.

whoa missed it upthread but calzino's anti-cat argument is almost exactly what Jonathan Franzen sounds like, and if you've read Freedom, the behavior of a certain character at the end. I understand though, cats are cool but I'm super allergic to them & have a tough time hanging with friends at certain apartments bc my throat closes up. ouch!

re: the bird thing

which, you know, i'm obviously sympathetic to

I think the problem is that cats kill small birds, which are actually OK birds and not dickholes like pigeons

We need to train cats to only kill starlings and pigeons

+ seagulls

'sup with starlings? (xp)

and whatever the hell that thing is that makes that insane YAKKing sound outside my window. sounds like its screaming.

that is actually the most brilliant song title i've ever seen. some singer. someone posted it on facebook once. "What if Birds Don't Sing, They're Screaming".

really wish i had thought of that.

starlings aren't native to North America and were introduced by some dipshit who thought NYC's Central Park should have every bird mentioned in Shakespeare's works. They demolished local bird populations and screwed up the North American ecosystem

I'm sure they're fine in place where they're not dickhead infiltrators

American cats can be trained to go after them then, UK moggies can leave well alone.

fair enough

Maybe we can train British cats to fight grey squirrels instead.

i love the metallic sheen on starlings

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/PHOTO/LARGE/european_starling_12.jpg

they're of course monsters obviously.

contrast between the visuals and the words is something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFWw9NQH89c

The only animal I'd fight is a goose. Mostly because I feel it would be fairly evenly matched and because you know that asshole goose probably has it coming.

+ seagulls

In order to kill seagulls we would need to breed a super-sized cat, more like a bobcat. I do not consider this controversial.

'sup with starlings?

starlings were imported into North America, where they have become an invasive species crowding out native species. they are considered to be a noisy nuisance at best. they don't belong here.

(I love that the 'controversial opinions' thread has devolved into 'which birds are the biggest assholes' thread, btw.)

Verging on the Trumpian there. (xp)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/25634_381783228609_3366304_n.jpg?oh=c46d44579e33420a707f7c7867ae1916&oe=5A814B73

murmuration of starlings is quite something to see.

gonna have to start flagging me some post in a minute

is it controversial to hate the canada goose and its prominence in suburban waterways? not at all

I bet ravens could be trained to kill seagulls.

that's how you get the movie The Birds, imo

The Birds should have featured owls, egrets, and herons. or it should have been called Some Basic Ass Birds

I'll never understand why Hitchcock abandoned that title.

i've been watching the animalapocalypse show Zoo about the chemically-induced mutation of the world's animals, and starring the indefatigable Billy Burke, and all i know is the body count better start getting higher or i'm not moving on to season 2.