PHANTOM THREAD: Paul Tomas Anderson, Daniel Day-Lewis, Fifties London

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Oh hell yeah

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

Unfortunately, 'art house 50 Shades of Grey' sounds like a movie full of the scenes where he's asking her why isn't she eating and then making her eat.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 October 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)

That does look decidedly boring

He should play WB Yeats soon

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:03 (eight years ago)

don't you remember he retired? (lol)

flappy bird, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (eight years ago)

unless he has some sort of second coming...

Number None, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:04 (eight years ago)

There's totally going to be a scene where he sews a dildo into one of those secret pockets

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 19:46 (eight years ago)

The strange thing is that in real life Daniel Day-Lewis is actually a cobbler and his specialty is embedding dildoes in the soles of his shoes. It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it, this presumption that knowing one thing could actually translate into a meaningful ability to represent the other thing. Hardly method acting, if you ask me.

Moodles, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:07 (eight years ago)

daniel dild-shoeis morelike amirite

clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

I regret this.

Simon H., Monday, 23 October 2017 20:14 (eight years ago)

daniel dild-shoeis morelike amirite

hahahaha

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:06 (eight years ago)

This looks great, not boring at all. The photography looks absolutely beautiful. Very excited to see it.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:08 (eight years ago)

This looks great.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:15 (eight years ago)

Is that Julia Davis playing the "rival" at the dinner table 1:15 in? She's not on the cast list.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 00:49 (eight years ago)

I won't watch the trailer (I don't really watch them) but PTA, whom I don't like much, made Inherent Vice and The Master back to back, both of which tickled me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 02:55 (eight years ago)

i'd like to know what you think of the aesthetic fwiw, and it doesn't give much away. in fact it does the opposite. such a shock to see PTA shoot grey skies, rainy cobbled streets and wild green coastlines.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:54 (eight years ago)

DDL looks magnificent. 60 years of age!

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:57 (eight years ago)

I can't stop watching this trailer. I hope that this will be one of my favourite films of all time. I know it's stupid to hope that.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:28 (eight years ago)

The film's aesthetic (if the trailer is to be trusted) is gorgeous--glorious clothes on beautiful people and magnificently preserved old houses. But I fear this will be another Gosford Park, in which a banal story is played out in a plutographic setting. I enjoy such movies while I'm watching them, but afterwards I feel like I've eaten too much candy.

(FWIW (do not read if you hate me) I prefer the 1934 Age of Innocence to the 1993 version, because the latter version seems to me to be bogged down in period detail.)

Virulent Is the Word for Julia (j.lu), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 12:19 (eight years ago)

well, let's see if it can even brush the hem of A Quiet Passion's dress.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:08 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

if this is DDL's last film, he's going out with the usual raves

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/phantom-thread/critic-reviews

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)

The Daily roundup

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5175-the-daily-paul-thomas-anderson-s-phantom-thread

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)

Every PTA gets the "the only one still making bona fide American masterpieces" reception, but this one's winning over some of the skeptics.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)

The only two films I hold in especially high esteem are Magnolia and Inherent Vice. So I'm not holding my breath.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)

The Master and IV for me, with Hard Eight close behind.

I missed the screening last Thursday and won't open for another month. The studio's holding on to it like a precious bauble.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:32 (eight years ago)

Last 3 are his best for me (cept the ending of Blood)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:33 (eight years ago)

Not even remotely screening in my area before the new year.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:37 (eight years ago)

Happened to watch Boogie Nights on a whim last night. Is it possible for a film to be “great” while also showing its seams (pardon the apropos metaphor) so clearly? It’s maybe the pinnacle of the jukebox movie. (I see its daddy Goodfellas as more than that.) I can’t tell if it is so vivid an experience for me because I saw it over and over at an impressionable age (and I’d never seen a movie with such tonal and stylistic flourishes before) or because it really stands up. But as a “hey look at me, look what I can do!” kind of statement it’s really something. I’m not sure his leap into maturity has worn as well. I admire his later movies but few of them really have a hold on me like Boogie Nights does, despite being pretty clear sighted about its flaws.

That said, the Master and Inherent Vice improve on subsequent viewings. Magnolia is almost unbearable to me now.

ryan, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:17 (eight years ago)

Most great anythings show their seams!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:19 (eight years ago)

Boogie Nights and Magnolia never struck me as anything more than wildly uneven, blatantly derivative provocations upon original release, and I haven't cared to revisit them.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:22 (eight years ago)

That is true! And yet.

ryan, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

Advance P Brad 5 Star review to be taken under the usual advisement:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/07/phantom-thread-review-daniel-day-lewis-paul-thomas-anderson

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 December 2017 10:17 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

I won't say yet what I think one of the major themes of this film turns out to be. The elders in the Upper West Side audience were a bit baffled.

Anyway, stands with Inherent Vice as Anderson's best. Variously put me in mind of The Archers, Welles, Hitchcock, Eyes Wide Shut.

(also if you go to a 70mm screening, at least in NYC, you get a glossy program book)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 16:46 (eight years ago)

btw it's not boring

DDL v involved with the scripting

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/02/phantom-thread-paul-thomas-anderson-interview/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:10 (eight years ago)

there are definite roots in Rebecca and Suspicion, but then detours you can't anticipate.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

this was great. had no idea jonny greenwood did the soundtrack, which was just fantastic.

iatee, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 05:13 (eight years ago)

Made a point of driving 2+ hours over the holidays to catch this in the 70mm "special presentation" and it was worth all the time and hassle. Easily my favorite movie of the year as soon as it ended. Very very not-boring and PTA's shortest since Punch-Drunk Love.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 08:39 (eight years ago)

only skimmed the review as i havent seen this yet but anthony lane called ddl the federer of film

johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:59 (eight years ago)

it's a cute analogy

Number None, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)

Film Comment feature

https://www.filmcomment.com/article/paul-thomas-anderson-phantom-thread-love-after-a-fashion/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)

Q: Is it violent/sadomasochistic? Anderson is so effective w/ scenes of pain and suffering I actually have to be careful which of his films I watch in theaters. During TWBB and TM I came close to panic attacks...

rb (soda), Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:13 (eight years ago)

this movie is incredible

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:35 (eight years ago)

i finished watching it and immediately bought a ticket for a 70mm showing

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:37 (eight years ago)

soda: not in a way you would expect, but yes, discreetly.

costume designer Mark Bridges:

I always do try to keep in mind how things are going to photograph. That’s why there’s not a ton of black in the film. I don’t love how black photographs. We made a tux for Daniel that was black. I had hoped it would be like a midnight blue, but at the end we decided on black. So I’m always mindful, as a cinema costume designer, how things photograph, but then I also try to use fabrics that would have been used at the time and be realistic about that. We had a lot of sources: Some of the fabrics came from Italy, some from America, some from London — just trying to get all of the fabrics that evoke the 1950s that were still around....

I always try to take a backseat to what the actor is doing. Especially Lesley Manville: I love it that you’re referring to her dresses as black because Paul wanted them black, and I said, “No, no, no. We have to do them in gray, so they photograph with a little bit of life to them.” It can’t be like running around in a nunnery or something. It’s already a tough, mysterious character who’s solitary. I originally wanted her to be a navy, but Paul had the idea of black. So we settled somewhere quite comfortably in this gray motif for her work clothes. We were informed by the women who were, essentially, the saleswomen at Balenciaga, and you see it all the way through any reference to that period: They would wear navy and pearls, very simple, and allow the fashions to stand out, and I think that’s what we did with Lesley. Of course, she has impeccable tailoring, she is representing the house, but the darkness of her business attire was really something Paul wanted to go with Lesley’s pale skin. There’s also charting “fisherman’s daughter into designer’s muse” as far as Alma goes. But then there’s also trying to be time and place appropriate, and not upstage or take you out of the story with something fancy that’s going to distract you. The things that do distract you in this story are story points, so I feel OK about that.

http://filmmakermagazine.com/104097-clothes-make-the-man/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:26 (eight years ago)

I loved this, of course

Basically a romantic comedy

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:44 (eight years ago)

I enjoy PTA’s seemingly central concern with the relationships of emotionally stunted monomaniac weirdos

Anyway since I’m a weirdo I thought this was the most romantic thing I’ve seen since the Mad Max Fury Road blood donation scene

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:50 (eight years ago)

Johnny Greenwood exceeded himself here I think.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:52 (eight years ago)

Quite a remarkable film. Per Morbz's comments earlier, you sense the cinematic bedrock but it doesn't stay there. Score, costume and cinematography all standouts but the shifting dynamics between the central three actors carried them all even further.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:35 (eight years ago)

I liked that despite being a “period piece” this could easily have taken place in the future

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:47 (eight years ago)

Yeah the trappings and setting are far from unimportant, but this isn't a _Crown_-style hyperfetishization and formalism.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:52 (eight years ago)

Has anyone here yet seen it in a 70mm screening? If yes, is it worth a surcharge? (Will probably see it tomorrow in 70mm.)

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Monday, 15 January 2018 00:03 (eight years ago)

No American film in the last few years makes me more uncomfortable. Letting someone "in your life" is a risk: you look like a manipulative Hitchcock-esque svengali like Woodcock, and that's the benefit of telling the story through Alma's POV; but I'm also annoyed that she won't respect his boundaries, especially since she lives in his house. Scraping the toast, throwing a surprise party for him -- it's clear he's on the spectrum when we see his reactions to them, and I cheer her hilarious, sadistic, cheerfully willful attempts to break him...but why shouldn't he expect (at his age!) to go on drinking his tea at a certain hour and not be disturbed? He's so hateful, and she's so right, and yet.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:48 (three years ago)

That scene in the rural inn where he patiently, meticulously, smilingly requests a traditional breakfast, and PTA cuts to Krieps' hungry expression (she's thinking, "OMIGOD he gets it!") is just perfect.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:50 (three years ago)

i don't have a fully formed thought on it, but thinking through the relationship dynamics in this and licorice pizza is really interesting bc there are some things that are strikingly similar and some things that are very much not

call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:52 (three years ago)

Also: he's the worst gaslighter in movies since Charles Boyer.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:57 (three years ago)

I didn't like anybody onscreen, which is fine because I dislike 98 percent of the people I watch or read about. But the film is sharp about the delusions of men who experiment with the feelings of women but expect solitude to work on their art.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:57 PM

still stand by this

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:07 (three years ago)

Didn’t Morbs say this movie was about “a closet case with a poisoning fetish”? I think about that phrase a lot.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 20 April 2023 01:33 (three years ago)

alfred otm

k3vin k., Thursday, 20 April 2023 02:07 (three years ago)

one month passes...

I just love this movie so much

k3vin k., Monday, 19 June 2023 14:42 (two years ago)

his best movie

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2023 14:54 (two years ago)

incredible

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2023 15:44 (two years ago)

Saw it for the first time on New Year's Day, 10/10 masterpiece

bain4z, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 13:52 (two years ago)

one year passes...

this movie is perfect and PTA's best movie? rewatching it i was trying to think of arguments against it being his best and all i could come up with is that it's so mannered, almost sterile at times, and that there are probably people who prefer PTA's messier early movies (boogie nights, magnolia, punch drunk love) or even his goofy anarchic mode (inherent vice, licorice pizza) to his insane prestige mode (TWWB, the master, phantom thread). but not me! i want amazing actors doing amazing acting that is filmed beautifully and has a groaning and/or lush jonny greenwood score please.

also this is such a basic acting point but it's crazy, having just rewatched TWWB, how much DDL changes his voice between the two roles

na (NA), Monday, 9 September 2024 20:08 (one year ago)

i prefer inherent vice but this is his best

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 9 September 2024 20:13 (one year ago)

also this is such a basic acting point but it's crazy, having just rewatched TWWB, how much DDL changes his voice between the two roles

― na (NA),

and to think his previous film was Lincoln!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2024 20:25 (one year ago)

That clip of DDL having lunch while in TWWB character is massively unsettling!

henry s, Monday, 9 September 2024 21:13 (one year ago)


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