Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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maybe some of you animated shorts oscar geeks already knew about this but it belongs on this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YSFvPTm2A

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:51 (eight years ago)

heh. oooof.

the good news is that at least in the united states, our new industrial scientist leaders in the government probably won't ever read that study, therefore it doesn't exist

http://blog.ucsusa.org/michael-halpern/the-epa-science-advisory-board-is-being-compromised-heres-why-that-matters

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)

i need to go back to bed and just start the day over. the world is fucked imo

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)

yr Fourth National Climate Assessment has arrived

https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/executive-summary

mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/11/the-zombie-diseases-of-climate-change/544274

mookieproof, Monday, 6 November 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

re the Science Advisory Board:

One of Pruitt’s other appointees to this board, from which he has purged most of the scientists whose findings inconvenience his longtime benefactors, is this guy Robert Phalen, who runs a lab at Cal-Irvine that studies the health effects of air pollution. Phalen, it seems, believes that we are coddling our children with too damn much fresh, clean air. From The Independent:

Speaking to the American Association for the Advancement of Science in 2012, Mr. Phalen told the audience: “Modern air is a little too clean for optimum health.” Mr. Phalen has also argued that the risks associated with modern particulate matter are “very small and confounded by many factors”. In a 2004 study, he wrote that, “neither toxicology studies nor human clinical investigations have identified the components and/or characteristics of [particulate matter] that might be causing the health-effect associations”.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a13381482/air-too-clean-epa-official-trump/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 November 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)

I bet that cunt really believes his own papers and snorts a bit of asbestos and w/ diesel fumes for breakfast, just to get his required impurity levels up. Clean water is killing us! Drink bin-juice mixed with surgical spirits!

calzino, Monday, 6 November 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)

There is an extensive literature on hormesis, and I think one can make a persuasive case for ambient radiation or some banned but persistent organic pollutants as harmless in human health. I've never seen it applied to atmospheric particulates. If there's any benefit to atmospheric particles, it occurs *well below* levels seen by industrialized societies.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:52 (eight years ago)

it's almost like scott pruitt appointed someone to head the SAB who doesn't know what they're doing! but why would he do that?!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:54 (eight years ago)

can the UN charge him with crimes against humanity or something

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:55 (eight years ago)

“neither toxicology studies nor human clinical investigations have identified the components and/or characteristics of [particulate matter] that might be causing the health-effect associations”.

This is effectively saying that we know that particulate matter in the air is associated with really nasty health effects, but until we can isolate the exact mechanisms by which particulate matter ruins people's health, he's perfectly happy to ruin lots of people's health.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 03:40 (eight years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/opinion/climate-capitalism-crisis.html

...the hope that we can empower intelligent people to positions where they can design the perfect set of regulations, or that we can rely on scientists to take the carbon out of the atmosphere and engineer sources of renewable energy, serves to cover over the simple fact that the work of saving the planet is political, not technical. We have a much better chance of making it past the 22nd century if environmental regulations are designed by a team of people with no formal education in a democratic socialist society than we do if they are made by a team of the most esteemed scientific luminaries in a capitalist society. The intelligence of the brightest people around is no match for the rampant stupidity of capitalism.

Simon H., Monday, 20 November 2017 15:23 (eight years ago)

new trump budget guts climate science studies (graduate and pro) anyways. MAGA

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:27 (eight years ago)

this problem will outlive the trump era y'know

Simon H., Monday, 20 November 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

not necessarily, if civilization ends prior to trumpski's russkie trot

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:55 (eight years ago)

you know we're not that lucky

Simon H., Monday, 20 November 2017 16:00 (eight years ago)

:(

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:20 (eight years ago)

https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21731397-stopping-flow-carbon-dioxide-atmosphere-not-enough-it-has-be-sucked-out

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 03:57 (eight years ago)

ugh

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/30112017/arctic-sea-ice-extent-record-chukchi-bering-sea-alaska-ocean

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:09 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://grist.org/article/let-it-go-the-arctic-will-never-be-frozen-again/

earth had a good run

, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 14:22 (eight years ago)

Off that URL: "Never" is a long time. So we'll skip the next glaciation, scheduled by Milanković to start in about a thousand years. Another will come around in ~100,000 CE. By then, most of the emissions will be safely sequestered a diatoms and other organics in the ocean depths, but any humanity surviving won't be able to do this again, as all the accessible fossil fuel will be long gone.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 14:28 (eight years ago)

100 million years after that there will be more fossil fuels! this time made from humans

, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 14:29 (eight years ago)

we'll make great pet(roleum)s

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 14:40 (eight years ago)

four weeks pass...

ugh

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:26 (eight years ago)

https://www.buzzfeed.com/zahrahirji/mercers-gop-climate-change-denial?utm_term=.ibamVaWxpB#.byPYmN9P36

$4 million is pocket change :)

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:13 (eight years ago)

Not that further documentation was needed, but yes 45 was wrong in saying the polar ice caps are back and stronger

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/29/donald-trump/trump-gets-polar-ice-trend-backwards/

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 January 2018 21:36 (eight years ago)

beautiful clean coal

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:59 (eight years ago)

wow finally some good news

A Trump nominee says carbon dioxide can't be pollution because "Our flesh, blood, and bones are built of carbon." https://t.co/PBmDfCNRnk

— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) January 31, 2018

frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:44 (eight years ago)

hahaha fuck

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:06 (eight years ago)

fuckin science, how does it work

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:28 (eight years ago)

"the gas of life"

jmm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:36 (eight years ago)

you can't drown in water. water can't hurt you. our bodies are MADE of water.

think about it.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:43 (eight years ago)

if you're thirsty, just drink yourself

frogbs, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:29 (eight years ago)

I wonder if they can goad her into huffing compressed CO2 at the next hearing.

jmm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:32 (eight years ago)

maybe try CO instead

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:00 (eight years ago)

and if you're dirty, then go take a bath xxxpost

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:13 (eight years ago)

scott pruitt wants to focus everyone on the most environmental question of our time: his uncertainty about what our target temperature should be in the year 2100.

from january 2018:

”The climate is changing. That’s not the debate. The debate is how do we know what the ideal surface temperature is in 2100?... I think the American people deserve an open honest transparent discussion about those things,” said Pruitt, who has frequently cast doubt on the causes and implications of global warming.

from a recent interview:

The EPA administrator said that humans are contributing to climate “to a certain degree”, but added: “We know humans have most flourished during times of warming trends. There are assumptions made that because the climate is warming that necessarily is a bad thing.

“Do we know what the ideal surface temperature should be in the year 2100 or year 2018?” he told a TV station in Nevada. “It’s fairly arrogant for us to think we know exactly what it should be in 2100.”

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:58 (eight years ago)

makes u think

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 23:59 (eight years ago)

this is where you find yourself after "debating" for several hours with a climate denier: somehow arguing about whether we know exactly what the temperature should be in 2100 (i will say YES, we should, duh, but the whole point is to make you take a position and then move the argument there)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:00 (eight years ago)

this marks the 30th fucking anniversary of james hansen testifying to congress that global warming has begun, btw

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:02 (eight years ago)

sorry, 2018 does, not today. june 24, 1988.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:03 (eight years ago)

where else is it 75 degrees in february?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:38 (eight years ago)

besides NYC?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:51 (eight years ago)

Today's high in DC of 82 was 33.5 degrees above normal. That's the 6th greatest positive temperature departure on record using current normals. https://t.co/dJgiXIhC6O pic.twitter.com/vMeEtbrfto

— Ian Livingston (@islivingston) February 21, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:40 (eight years ago)

Tis the season for Rebuilding the Arctic icepack. With temperatures hovering around 20-30 Fahrenheit, rather that the normal -30, we're in for another year of records.

Screaming into the void has never been easier (Sanpaku), Thursday, 22 February 2018 01:01 (eight years ago)


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