brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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Clive Lewis did a weird yet typical interruption to a question put to Caroline Flint a few weeks back on Sunday Politics and then immediately repeatedly apologised as he realised the textbook mansplain/hijack. He's definitely got speak-before-think issues despite good intentions.

nashwan, Friday, 20 October 2017 14:50 (eight years ago)

Out in the very sensitive world of the construction industry, anybody who has done an apprenticeship will be very familiar with being referred to as a "bitch" or a "boy". For at least a few years, where you were deemed only worthy to sweep up rubble and crawl about confined spaces full of asbestos and itchy black lime dust. What a life!

I think Lewis is a bit of dick tbh. But definitely not a totally bad person in the scheme of things.

calzino, Friday, 20 October 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/22/backbench-tories-universal-credit-climbdown-theresa-may

The government is edging closer to a major U-turn on the universal credit benefits system, it has been claimed, as Conservative backbench critics of the policy said that they had been assured the government was listening to their concerns.

It sounds like some compromise might be occurring. The whole monstrosity needs major surgery and is punitive + repulsive obv, but even if they cut a couple of weeks off the waiting time, then that is a small victory at least.

calzino, Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:44 (eight years ago)

One hopes the pressure of that non-binding commons vote is bearing fruit.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 October 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)

The Universal Credit rollout shitfest is the genie that Osborne was pressured to put back in the bottle, but then even after that lame u-turn (i think in 2015) he publically admitted was inevitable anyway, after a countrywide rollout at a later date. Hitting the disabled is fair game - cos there is a popular mandate for killing disableds etc, but not working people and specifically in this case - the lower paid end of the self-employed spectrum. Not that it makes any discernible difference to people in areas where it had already been rolled out. But the extra amounts of people in working poverty will definitely make a mockery of the Tory lowlife who have drank the Kool-Aid, and are still claiming that it "makes work pay". It is the working tax-credit cuts sewn into it by Osborne that completely wreck that equation.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 00:05 (eight years ago)

a scandal involving a Labour MP being outed as having made problematic posts to Drowned in Sound in the mid 2000s - this is making me feel old

soref, Monday, 23 October 2017 11:44 (eight years ago)

Loooool hang on what

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 11:57 (eight years ago)

Guy Fawkes is on a mission

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:03 (eight years ago)

They do it on purpose etc.

How long before we have German Fish & Chips? pic.twitter.com/8OmvAytgJQ

— Greg Hands (@GregHands) October 23, 2017

nashwan, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:06 (eight years ago)

tbf I would be surprised if some chinless wonder knew anything about the provenance of the mighty Doner

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:11 (eight years ago)

Oh it's a Guido 'scoop'. Aiming at all the young Corbynites. When he gets beaten to a pulp it won't be too soon

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:14 (eight years ago)

> German Fish & Chips?

a german version of that dish famously introduced to britain by the jewish settlers?

koogs, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:14 (eight years ago)

and commonly prepared and sold by Greek Cypriots

mahb, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:23 (eight years ago)

"Germany without potatoes is as unimaginable as a repetitively re-offending suicide bomber" - Jonathan Meades, bon vivant + food expert.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:37 (eight years ago)

Mind the gap, beyond the sea.
Let Brussels drink your cup of tea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gK-6kkXiI

saer, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)

Guido Fawkes/Seaman Staines exclusive: key Momentum organiser used to own one of those pens with a lady on the end and if you turn it upside down, her dress falls off

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 23 October 2017 13:57 (eight years ago)

xpost holy shit

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:01 (eight years ago)

"Rock Rebel"

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:10 (eight years ago)

hmm, there's more dirt on o'mara than first appeared

still, guido is a shit. but where's the left-wing guido, lol

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:59 (eight years ago)

it's called The Canary and it's godawful

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:04 (eight years ago)

Some people are pleading frivolous bantz on O'Mara's behalf and it's a Guido job etc, but it is indefensible stuff and shows under the nice-guy act lurks a deeply unpleasant dickhead imo. So a typical politician after all.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:16 (eight years ago)

I mean specifically in the Shittersphere, although probably the ones defending him are the same jerkoffs that rt every bastard Canary article, Orwell meme etc...

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:19 (eight years ago)

and commonly prepared and sold by Greek Cypriots

... in London, Italians everywhere else?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

"Writing on Drowned in Sound website in November 2004, he posted:"

I din't realise the Jared O'Mara outrage was from when he was a teenager ffs!

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:47 (eight years ago)

His behaviour as a teenager is almost as reprenhensible as a 53 year old Foreign Secretary.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

he was born in 1981 so not quite a teenager by 2004, but yeah.

not sure how old he was when posting on Morrissey Solo to angrily reject the idea that Morrissey might be homosexual

soref, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)

35

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 16:29 (eight years ago)

I don't get the greg hands controversy (some ratio on that tweet tho). can someone pls ELI5

||||||||, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)

they are all bad and so are we

mark s, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)

oh I think I get it. greg hands thinks the UK invented the doner kebab?

||||||||, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:05 (eight years ago)

Right, have I been getting my fish and chips and doner kebabs mixed up?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)

real england :(
http://weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/abandoned-fish-chips-5a-644x859.jpg

mark s, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:22 (eight years ago)

the uk invented the munchy box and that's all that matters πŸŽ‰πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸŽ‰πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§

clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:24 (eight years ago)

the doner kebab was invented in Germany.

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

yep the dude that invented it died last year, in Germany I believe.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:37 (eight years ago)

however it was perfected at Indus, Newland Avenue, Hull

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:38 (eight years ago)

You mean, Crystal, Holloway Road surely?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

need to organize some sort of ILX kebab exchange to judge this fairly

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)

If this won’t drag Ken Chu back to ILX, nothing will.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

Debbie Abrahams has secured an emergency debate on the UC rollout tomorrow.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 18:23 (eight years ago)

at the same time, nusrat ghani's motion for an emergency debate on clive lewis' comments has been absolutely seen off by bercow

||||||||, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

Drowned in Sound, eh.

The thing about 'scandals' like this is that exactly the same type of scandal carries more or less weight with different politicians, depending on how powerful and entrenched they are - the stuff Boris Johnson keeps on getting away with makes me feel fairly unbothered by this guy's DiS postings about wanting an orgy with Girls Aloud.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:31 (eight years ago)

Not that this is exactly the same as Boris Johnson scandal because that would probably involve public racist comments but you know what I mean

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 23 October 2017 19:32 (eight years ago)

The Bercow thing in more detail:

pic.twitter.com/uD320W4UH6

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) October 23, 2017

re: Jared. Like with a lot of these things it depends on the tone of the apology...

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:56 (eight years ago)

quits equality committee, I should have added.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)

Sad to realize this probably means Dom Passantino will never be an mp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:09 (eight years ago)

just started typing a "pour one out" joke, gave up in ennui

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:29 (eight years ago)

See he goes but Johnson doesn't go, you know

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 23 October 2017 20:32 (eight years ago)

As Francis Ryan said earlier, he definitely should be replaced on the committee by another disabled MP. From that massive pool of disabled MP's out there obv. I bet there are some twitchy MP's across the board at the moment, with a similarly traceable online presence from the early period Wild West of internet days!

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:09 (eight years ago)


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