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The Greek myths are boring and there's nothing special about them.

The story of Philomel was the source for a cool Babbitt piece.

I mean they have all these inevitable cultural resonances because they've been so integrated into our culture -- Achilles heel, fly to close to the sun, Sisyphean task, etc but it's only the references that makes them resonate, the stories themselves are dumb.

Out of curiosity, are there any myths you don't think are dumb? because, if not, you could have broadened your controversial opinion considerably, and if so, I would be curious to hear what you think their superiorities consist of.

If we were in 30's Berlin we'd all be Nazi's.
― Sylvestre, Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:58 AM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i find man alive's greek myth diss to be O_o but have to admit that it's a great controversial opinion

Yeah I mean it kind of popped into my head and without thinking too much I was like "yeah, seems like there's something to this, I'm just gonna run with it."

boring i could see. it depends on whose translation of the myth you're reading, because it's not like there are any direct authors we can refer to. but it's all subjective, regardless. but "nothing special" seems like a reach. there aren't too many stories that have survived from the ancient world to today! that insane story i told at the bar last week? no one remembers that. i don't even remember it. it takes a pretty special story to survive thousands of years! oh, this dude flies so close to the sun that he loses the special trait that allowed him to get there in the first place? laaaaaaame

Eris rules wtf

the greek gods are prob the weakest or at least the weirdest part of the greek myths, come to think of it -- it's like you've got this tacky reality show superimposed on the genuine pathos and tragedy going on w/ the human characters.

uh Homer is some of the best shit ever, is that like not what u meant tho?

it is a beautiful controp tho and i commend u for that

Greek gods / mythology >>>>>> the modern day equivalent (superman, spiderman, avengers, whatever etc)

Yes. And that seems the more controversial opinion nowadays iirc.

that’s bullshit contrarianism and an obvious pose, is why

for real tho tell me how the labors of Hercules are more important and better than marvel movies - compare and contrast, nmt 1200 words

Don't think anyone said "more important"? Not me anyway. More enjoyable for sure. By ymmv in this thread for ~controversial opinions~

ts: timeless vs unwatchable.. hmmmmm

Controp:

Anyone taking argument with a controp itt is lower than scum

as I understand it actual Greek beliefs were way darker and untidier than the canonical versions we grow up reading as kids now

also darragh basically on the money unless I do it

also fuck cinematic universes altho this is not controv

also I dunno

Non controversial opinion

The Celtic, Icelandic, Germanic cycles and sagas get to the rhythmic dark heart of it better than the dry academic Greek stuff

I like all them pretty well too, especially when they are more about humans rather than deus ex machina stuff, but as I say I think if Greek mythology looks dry and academic now it's cos it's been too minced up by dry academics for centuries

Like I can't believe ilx doesn't fw the tain bo cuailgne tbph

I played the shit out of Tír na nÓg and Dun Darach on the Spectrum as a kid is all I'm saying

lol Tir na Nog was just a hippy that could walk, l or r but I can remember thinking at least it had better graphics than Valhalla.

man that game was deep once you got into it

there were some seriously clever puzzles, all done thru graphics

I think the C64 version came out much later than the Speccy one, a bit like Fairlight, where it was a good game of its time but the conversion took too long.

I'll admit to crushing on Étaíne when I read Tochmarc Étaíne. Should read more of that tbh.

sorry for reducing your rich culture and mythology to low resolution video games darragh

I've reduced it as far as dogeared books that smell like old men, who am I to judge

The story of Philomel is pretty damn dark and untidy (although the Babbitt piece is probably still my favourite thing about it).

Sleepingbag OTM but tbf having your tongue cut out > watching contemporary superhero movies

Joe Rogan is alright

agreed

lol, I'll listen to Joe Rogan if one of my favorite musicians is on. Then it'll be like Ok that was pretty cool. Who's next? A guy who hunts invasive pigs in Patagonia? Great! Sign me up! Subscribe! Next? A b-list stand-up comic. Ok, sure I guess... Next week? The more speculative side of evolutionary psychology! EJECT EJECT!

This repeats itself every 6 months or so for me. Substitute in Milo Yiannopoulos, an anti-feminist woman, or some MMA fighter in the last slot as necessary.

Joe Rogan is alright

― rip van wanko, Friday, October 13, 2017 2:39 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

about what in particular

oh sorry i misread "alright" as "right"

xxp yeah exactly, he's "alright." guests are wildly inconsistent but I like that he has a pretty wide variety of people on & has an open mind & admits to being comparatively pretty uneducated, jack of all trades/master of none

Blade Runner 2049 is better than the original.

Emovieji man rides again

The original Blade Runner is super fucking boring and I have no idea why it's such a classic.

Agreed. I watched it on a cyberpunk kick when I was a kid, via Shadowrun and Neuromancer, and I fell asleep during it. It had some cool visuals, though.

yeah i don't get it all, i'm a huge PKD fan & the book isn't one of my favorites, but original movie omits most interesting aspects of the book (mood organ, domestic aspect, the animals, & his humor). this new one was just a beautiful & haunting tone poem, with like half a dozen classic Dickian images, mostly with the hologram girlfriend: grotesquely frozen mid-kiss when his boss calls him, when she super imposes with the blonde woman, the glitching out, and then all of the water, the isolation and desolation, and all of the silences... there's so silence in this movie. the person i saw it with hated it because in their opinion it was narratively simplistic, overly expository, and predictable. it's a simple story, not one of my favorites by PKD, i don't care, it was hypnotic, and more evocative of Dick's work than the original BR.

Joe Rogan enables the far right. That can't be news to anyone.

I think if Greek mythology looks dry and academic now it's cos it's been too minced up by dry academics for centuries

Try reading the Marriage of Cadmus and Harmony by Roberto Calasso!

xp so? the far right > the far left

i don't even think that's a controp, not event on this 'leftist' board.. most ilxors seem to choose to live in cities that are bastions of wealth, work in non-laborous occupations, and of course off-load labor through commerce rather than, say, establish work communes.. possibly not a coincidence?

Why do you post here

choose to live in cities that are bastions of wealth

so do homeless people in NY. does that make them far rightist?

which is to say that when an opinion is based on really stupid reasoning, it stops being worthy of controversy and slips into dismissibility

Why do you post here

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 15, 2017 12:20 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bc i love everything