The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

so.... just like the original then!

*runs away*

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They should make a Blade Runner movie that totally drops any pretense of plot and is just a sci-fi city symphony focused on sound and visuals.

With Vangelis flying around on a keyboard ship.

a sci-fi koyaanisqatsi would be v much in my wheelhouse

now i'm sad it doesn't exist ;_;

I don't think there was ever a plan for Vangelis to do the soundtrack. Jóhann Jóhannsson was the one originally hired.

I'm glad that (according to you guys) we got the good zimmer for this one

Music is very Vangelis and spot-on but there are the compulsory Zimmer foghorns on occastion

"Long and boring!" - Leonard Maltin

Leonard Maltin is still alive?!

http://leonardmaltin.com/blade-runner-2049-not-worth-the-wait/

you cannot kill what does not live xp

damn, the writer seriously hates women.

the original wasn't especially nice to ladies either!

I can't believe this thread hasn't turned spoileriffic yet, that seems like a bad sign imo? I still want to see this in the theater

yeah, i was gonna say, the rachel/deckard sex scene in the original is uh problematic

to say the fucking least

i still don't understand why deckard suddenly gets all MAD THROWY AROUNDY

replicants short circuit a bit sometimes

like I LOVE YOU but I HATE YOU but I WANT TO KISS YOU but I'M THROWING YOU AGAINST THIS MOODILY LIT WALL

i dunno maybe it made sense in the 80s

yes, the original was bad in this respect, but no, I didn't think in 2017 the director would say "you know what, we need to double down on that shit"

i still don't understand why deckard suddenly gets all MAD THROWY AROUNDY

because she's not a human, just a piece of machinery D U SEE

he's like a child, he doesn't understand these complex feels he's having. assuming he's a robot too.

that too

fwiw it def is a weird and problematic scene but it does make some narrative sense

I think that's more easily explained by "it's a noir, and the main characters in those movies always push women around, to the woman's eventual delight"

yes :(

this line from the wikipedia plot summary of Cherry 2000 should entice those of you who have been putting off viewing that movie (which is set in the dystopian future of... 2017!):

As they enter Zone 7, they encounter Lester, a wasteland overlord with deranged subordinates.

Welcome to the world of in house IT support...

the dystopian future of... 2017!

cherry 2000 otm

Cherry 2000 has a fucking awesome score by poledouris in which he said he was trying to blend 'Mozart morricone and moroder'

is that why the trailer on youtube uses the score from Taxi Driver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckEEQKXaCU

Trailers are a whole other world

right, this just seemed like a really weird choice to re-use a very famous score. don't get me wrong I will def hunt down a copy of this, looks v entertaining.

Just re-watched the original film after 29 years...It was worth the wait.

I liked this movie, but
Mild spoilers ensue

it suffers from the plot being spread out over so long. There’s a couple turns, and there is a tiny montage flashing through previous scenes that refreshes some connective tissue that wouldn’t have been necessary if it was tighter

Deakins is a complete animal, and it’s beautiful. The music isn’t too Zimmer but, surprisingly, there is one bit that reminds me of the tunnel sequence movie in Sicario, so there’s a glimmer of the idea Johansson was in mind. I really wonder if Ridley & co demanded something more straightforward, and the temp score track used some of Johannson’s other work, and Zimmer/Wallfisch ended up recreating the mood of the temp track while just making it more of a homage

cherry 2000 aint that good!

read an interview with Villeneuve where he basically said "love Johann, he's a genius blah blah blah, but his score wasn't Vangelis enough, so we brought in Hans to bring it back to the heart music"

make of that what you will

hrrrrrrm

Listened to the score today - haven't seen the film - and it's exactly what I expected : a very precise, very loud pastiche of Vangelis' og score. A hack copy, if you will.

I liked this but the (spoilers)
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."we're building an army" moment was one that's definitely a tired trope by this point

the beach battle is dope af

‪I (mostly) loved this. There’s some clunkiness, especially in the third act, but overall it expands upon the world and themes of the original very nicely.

Also Jared Leto is barely in it so it works out alright. ‬

it's more fun if you basically think he's playing Jared Leto cos then the character seems doubly horrible

Saw it. Not bad. Would have been on board with the critics who called it a "masterpiece" if it featured Harrison Ford punching Jared Leto in the face.

hmmm

not as bad as I feared but far from great. Sean young scene was bracingly weird.

It had no right being anywhere near that long. I love Mackenzie Davis but her and the uprising figures added nothing (beyond her part in the sex scene)

pro - pretty movie, good sound, good costumes, good scenery, cool futurist ideas

con - bad script, bad acting, huge plot holes, tired story, predictable, jared leto, sexism, bad philosophical ideas

It is interesting that these pros/cons level with the og Blade Runner for the most part

lol ok maybe not that last post, unsure, haven’t seen it, but the response from irl people lines up cleanly.

I just watched Cherry 2000, and it's pretty hilarious how Blade Runner 2049 rips it off. It's debatable which one is the better movie. Cherry 2000 no question has better dialog.

And Brion James is in it!

de Jarnatt's Miracle Mile is in my top 10 movies of the 80s for sure

hahaha, that movie traumatized me when I watched it one weekend in junior high