The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

"Good news! It's the best thing since The Godfather Part III!"

apparently i said the exact same thing upthread! anyway...

If you want to know how ridiculous Rotten Tomatoes is, the Scott review is categorized as "fresh." Low expectations run the world.

Ned otm

David Edelstein is even more ambivalent than Scott ("I thought it was okay") but I'm not sure I ever read this before:

It’s permissible to answer the question, “Does Blade Runner 2049 have any more connection to the paranoid visionary Philip K. Dick and his novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? than Blade Runner?” A bit. It’s a little less noir, a little more philosophical. Dick didn’t think Blade Runner was very Dick-ian. He didn’t live to see the movie (he died of a stroke at 53 in 1982), but he got hold of the script after Ridley Scott said in an interview that he’d found the novel too difficult to read.

Dick’s approval of the screenplay had more than a touch of irony. “It was terrific,” he wrote. “It bore no relation to the book. Oddly, in some ways it was better. What my story will become is one titanic lurid collision of androids being blown up, androids killing humans, general confusion and murder, all very exciting to watch. Makes my book seem dull by comparison.” He added, “As a writer, though, I’d like to see some of my ideas, not just special effects of my ideas, used.”

http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/blade-runner-2049-cant-match-its-predecessor.html

xxxxxxxxposts RT is just fine if you do more than just glance at the numerical score and actually read the linked reviews in a "all in one place" setting.

it's just too many people mistake it for a score that an individual "Rotten Tomatoes" panel gave it

or think the % reflects the level of enjoyment rather than the % of critics that RT determined "liked" the movie after reading the reviews

Absolutely, it's fine as an aggregator of current reviews

It's when it attempts to judge film history that it goes off base

i’m going to make a site that lets you fave your trusted critics or at least shows prior movies with their reviews, then asks you if you agree with them, and caters a score just for you

brb patenting that

There's some PKD series on BBC 4 Amazon or something called Electric Dreams if you want to get back to the heart music

Absolutely, it's fine as an aggregator of current reviews

If that was all it did it would be fine but it's...actually you know what I'm not gonna get on this soapbox today

Some actual critics are seeing this now and have less-than-impressed takes

Hi all
If I were to rewatch Blade Runner prior to the new one, is "Final Cut" the definitive version?

there is no definitive version

Can one even see the original June '82 release version anymore? Or has it gone to movie purgatory w/ the original Star Wars cuts?

There was a boxset with multiple version after The Final Cut came out.

TFC is the definitive version, I suppose, but they all have the boring middle stretch.

what happened to the cut w/ all the buttsecks

Can one even see the original June '82 release version anymore

i watched it the other day! it's on disc three of my blu ray copy

the narration lives up to its reputation incidentally

what happened to the cut w/ all the buttsecks

you're probably thinking of blade bummer: an xxx parody, in which blade bummer dick peckhard is tasked with tracking down boy batty

that was on a double bill with E.T.: The Extra Testicle

Well, the original BR did lack balls.

this has been extremely helpful

giggling

“Like any great movie, Ridley Scott’s Blade Runner cannot be spoiled.

but Blade Runner is not a great movie.

I need to rewatch to assess whether it's great or not but I agree that it's spoiler-proof. It's pure ~viiibe, man~

BR and I are fundamentally are at odds because I can't chill with a movie like I can with friends.

just saw final cut. i feel like they added more rain to it.

Showoff. xp

the Blade Runner making of documentary >>> Blade Runner

this sucked

it's pretty, soundtrack is surprisingly great, but wow the plot's a mess and damn, the writer seriously hates women.

This got another Bradshaw 5 star review. How the fuck does he keep his job?

Silly question really. But he is such a predictable easy-shill, that I hate myself for ever taking his opinions seriously back in the day.

the movie seriously rips off Cherry 2000 and tries to sell it as pathos equal to the original

I've been meaning to see Cherry 2000 for years and now I feel extra annoyed that I still haven't seen it.

don't worry, Cherry 2000 cannot be spoiled

How have i never heard of cherry 2000 before

National Post in Canada also gave it 5 stars and called it "perfect". I guess 5-star reviews must get more clicks.

in the history of cinema, there has only been one perfect movie, and that movie's name is turner and hooch, so stfu national post

It was boring and turgid but the music and the look of the film were amazing. A lot of cool ideas that went nowhere in the end and yes I know it was a sci-fi movie but jaysus it was daft. Lacking any too intensity tbh. I've yet to see a Denis Villeneuve film that hasn't bored me yet.

I thought Vangelis was doing the whole soundtrack again? Was it scrapped or was that never the plan?

How long is Carla Juri in it? What's she like here?

so.... just like the original then!

*runs away*

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They should make a Blade Runner movie that totally drops any pretense of plot and is just a sci-fi city symphony focused on sound and visuals.

With Vangelis flying around on a keyboard ship.

a sci-fi koyaanisqatsi would be v much in my wheelhouse

now i'm sad it doesn't exist ;_;

I don't think there was ever a plan for Vangelis to do the soundtrack. Jóhann Jóhannsson was the one originally hired.

I'm glad that (according to you guys) we got the good zimmer for this one

Music is very Vangelis and spot-on but there are the compulsory Zimmer foghorns on occastion

"Long and boring!" - Leonard Maltin