Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

for guys like Adams and Baio and even James Woods this is the best gig they've had in a decade

I guess we need to get to the point where every person in America knows someone killed in a mass shooting in order to stop this "crisis actor" nonsense. We probably will get to that point, and it probably still won't help.

Not only is Fox News giving airtime to an expert in crisis actors (a made-up thing), they're giving it to fucking Scott Adams. What the fuck is going on.

I think that tweet was satire, correct me if I'm wrong

ugh guys i hate to say this but i just heard:

active shooter at USC

xpost 2017 protip: if it seems like OTT satire, it's probably real.

who the hell knows anymore

Seeing tweets about no evidence of active shooter at USC

I think that tweet was satire, correct me if I'm wrong

no

the first good news of the day : /

Reported that the Vegas shooter had 19 rifles in his hotel room, two mounted on tripods and hundreds of rounds of ammunition (though that was a given).

19.

nothing to see here folks, this is america, the tree of liberty must be refreshed by the blood of people just hanging out having a good time.

i think we need to talk to hotel 'security'

xp you joke, but real life is beyond parody and sarcasm

Bill O'Reilly responded to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history on Monday morning by suggesting these types of events are simply “the price of freedom.” In a blog post on his website, O’Reilly wrote, “Once again, the big downside of American freedom is on gruesome display.” He went on to declare that “government restrictions will not stop psychopaths from harming people,” adding: “The NRA and its supporters want easy access to weapons, while the left wants them banned. This is the price of freedom. Violent nuts are allowed to roam free until they do damage, no matter how threatening they are. The Second Amendment is clear that Americans have a right to arm themselves for protection. Even the loons.”

took me awhile to figure out what the hell ol Bill was saying there, i came away thinking i should move to Iceland.

The shooter had been at the hotel for a few days, probably pretty easy to bring a couple of guns up there at a time. Also, apparently there is (was?) a big Vegas gun show in a few days, so piles of guns might not be a problem.

Which of course is the problem: piles of guns. Piles of guns should always be a problem. Hotel security is a distant second to people with piles of guns.

Has it been confirmed if any of the guns were automatic? Automatic guns are, supposedly, illegal. Don't know the legal status of semi-automatic weapons tweaked to be fully automatic. I know guns nuts pride themselves on trading and upgrading parts to build the killing machines they most desire. A scope here, a silencer there, a magazine there ...

The price of our freedom to own massacre weapons is massacres, yup, seems about right.

Piles of guns just being carried about are clearly not something america cares about, if that skinhead on the Vice Charlotteville doco was anything to go on. He was casually unpacking a large bag full of guns and scattering em all over his bed on camera.

i actually respect bill o'reilly's statement. if you support private gun ownership, you are also in effect saying that innocent lives are a reasonable price to pay for your stupid fucking hobby. at least he's honest

The price is someone else's blood, as always with these fucks

Does the Dickhead in Chief actually hunt or own guns? He might be the least gunny pro-gun prez ever.

Find me a single spouse, parent, or child of a dead victim of one of these shootings who agrees that it's "just the price you pay for freedom."

let's put a few who disagree in a locked room with BO'R

Find me a single spouse, parent, or child of a dead victim of one of these shootings who agrees that it's "just the price you pay for freedom."

Yeah seriously, clearly not a statement anyone who's lost someone in a senseless act of violence would ever, ever say. The total lack of even the barest empathy is truly galling.

Heard the press conference today with Giffords and the other guy. They both make a point of being gun owners and proud supporters of the 2nd amendment, but believers that some compromises must be made. As if there is any middle ground to be found with the most ardent gun nuts, though iirc when they poll they find even gun owners and NRA supporters want tighter regulations/restrictions. But who knows about that. That sounds a bit to me like people who purport to be independent and want to hear all the facts before making their decision, then always vote republican anyway.

Does the Dickhead in Chief actually hunt or own guns? He might be the least gunny pro-gun prez ever.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2017 8:33 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his kids sure as shit do

12. ISIS is tripling down on its claim. The group has issued a communique where they identify shooter with nom de guerre Abu Abd El Bar pic.twitter.com/o4aYQjBWzI

— Rukmini Callimachi (@rcallimachi) October 2, 2017

btw Shithead did not say "guns" once in his teleprompted palaver.

thoughts & prayers roll of bile:

http://splinternews.com/every-member-of-congress-who-took-money-from-the-nra-an-1819059582

xpost this one really feels like them just wanting to Henry Lee Lucas "steal" an event they wished they'd masterminded. cos it isn't like the gov't under Trump has no vested interest in claiming this was ISIS

Heavenly Father,

You suck really fucking bad at your job.

Love,

Neanderthal

ok so the "ISIS claims everything" narrative perhaps isn't true but given the nature of our country's leadership at the moment it seems like this would be one they'd want to make some noise about

Does it matter if he was "inspired by ISIS" or inspired by white supremacy or misogyny or any other hate ideology?

it does when the head of the Executive Branch is likely to issue executive orders if one of the scenarios happened

i finally had a chance to talk w my brother at lunch. last night they were walking the strip and decided on a whim at 9:30 to go see the Cirque du Soliel show at the MGM Grand. so they were right down the street when it happened and were on lockdown for hours following the event. i will hear all about it from them when they get back from vacay in a week. im thanking God they made that last minute decision cos otherwise who knows. holy crap.

they said they felt real safe (they had a police scanner and could listen in while on lockdown) but understandably super shaken. crazy doesn't begin to describe it.

Does it matter if he was "inspired by ISIS" or inspired by white supremacy or misogyny or any other hate ideology?

― Treeship, Monday, October 2, 2017 5:32 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it does when the head of the Executive Branch is likely to issue executive orders if one of the scenarios happened

― Neanderthal, Monday, October 2, 2017 5:35 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right, also if it were a black guy, an immigrant, the reaction would be a lot more, uh, "proactive." Evidence in the eyes of some that whites are being persecuted, we're letting in terrorists, "rapists & killers," etc. And a country being attacked by an enemy state is a completely different thing.

if I was locked in a casino after that shit went down I'd end up bankrupt or in jail or both. definitely would get drunker than ever before.

weirdly comforted by reports of people playing slots at mandalay only hours after

lotta pieces of garbage saying "but what if this guy was antifa?"

cross-reference w/ if they've watched The Life of David Gale

I get it, but I'm really annoyed by the news playing up the shooter's age. He's younger than the man that shot up the GOP baseball game, for god's sake, and that wasn't that long ago.

Heavenly Father,

You suck really fucking bad at your job.

Love,

Neanderthal

Strikes me that just like O'Reilly saying this is price of freedom, theists say this is the price of free will.

Agents with Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms have yet to determine if Paddock modified mechanical components to a semiautomatic rifle to make it fully automatic, Lombardo said, which would be illegal. He also could have used a legal modification like an attachable crank to simulate automatic fire, which depresses the trigger faster than a finger and can be bought online for as little as $40.

I mean, shit, why is such a thing even for sale?

That's like selling a special $10 balloon that makes your bomb explode bigger.

guess he wasn't one of the responsible gun owners. ah well

You would think being responsible and owning over 30 guns, many of them assault rifles, would be mutually exclusive, but what do I know.

lotta pieces of garbage saying "but what if this guy was antifa?"

You can thank the cunt Alex Jones for that.

I mean, shit, why is such a thing even for sale?

There's a whole range of stuff like this that the gun lobby bullies the ATF into letting pass.

SIG sells "arm braces" that just so happen to function like a stock so anyone can have a short-barreled rifle without the ATF paperwork. Completely legal with a wink-wink nod-nod to only use it correctly.

$100 will get a [bump fire stock](https://youtu.be/zrqSno35faU?t=1m44s).

hearing a lot about "expanded background checks." as if that would've done anything in this scenario