Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

oh god dammit

"no known connection to terrorism muslims"

Jesus, the number of wounded now thought to be over 400.

awful. What a truly horrific thing for Americans to wake up to.

Wounded I assume includes people trampled, in shock, etc.

Nevada has some of the loosest gun laws in the country (and by extension, the world). Open carry, concealed carry, assault weapons, high capacity magazines, no permits needed, all these things are a free for all. Iirc they recently had to (and won a?) fight even for limited background checks.

How are we going to keep retired white men away from our country music festivals

I did have to get rid of fruit when I drove into Nevada though

the snapchat news story on this was a collection of snaps from people who were there. the way the gunshots sounded so... not normal, but maybe banal? was probably the most horrifying thing. (i do not recommend watching it if you have a weak stomach.)

anyway i'm sure the thoughts and prayers offered up en masse will make a difference until next time

real cool that the media keeps putting up pictures of a person of color who did not shoot and kill 50 people rather than pictures of the white man who shot and killed 50 people

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

real cool that the media keeps putting up pictures of a person of color who did not shoot and kill 50 people rather than pictures of the white man who shot and killed 50 people

wait who is this in reference to?

the filipino girlfriend

who police have already determined was not involved

idk maybe I'm wrong, it's just that the first two news articles I opened this morning had huge pictures of Marilou Danley prominently featured

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14326530/1/gun-stocks-spike-in-aftermath-of-deadliest-u-s-shooting-in-las-vegas.html?puc=CNNMONEY&cm_ven=CNNMONEY

HOORAY!

you're not wrong crut

I get why this happened under Obama but Trump's not exactly a threat to pass any gun legislation so I don't get why stocks are going up

Because more people will feel threatened now? "Boy if it can happen in Vegas, makes u think"?

I've no clue. USA gun stuff is a mystery to me.

i’m pretty sure my dad is ok but i haven’t checked in yet bc he’s a nra member and my anger is for the moment outweighing my worry

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

anytime this happens it’s the fucking worst obviously but it happening in my hometown is really fucking me up (everyone i know is, afaik, safe)

IsLOLmic State claiming responsibility.

1) BREAKING: #ISIS' Amaq claims #LasVegas shooting. Surprising as it sounds, statement issued on legit primary source. https://t.co/nh8zuEPP3N

— Rita Katz (@Rita_Katz) October 2, 2017

xp beat me to it

My brother is out there right now w his wife he was at the MGM Grand at the time and they were on lock down until 4am. They are safe but understandably shaken up.

Legislation is about as likely as cutting defence spending look at our "more divided than ever" two party system setting a shit example at the top w infinite blank checks.

xp fuuuuuuuuuck

Not awaiting the Alex Jones hot take.

don't they take credit for everything though

Literally every single human being on planet earth pic.twitter.com/AwpOuEINi4

— (((MattSteinglass))) (@mattsteinglass) October 2, 2017

xp Surprisingly they don't! Though they've had some wrong claims in recent months.

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

Specifically, people who already own guns and ammo break out the credit cards and buy more, because no matter who the president is or who is in congress, they know what's coming, any day now. This is a minority of citizens, hopefully that's obvious, but the spike in demand is predictable enough that if you're an institutional investment manager who isn't restricted from trading in guns and ammo stock then it would be irresponsible not to

UPDATE: Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility

— Reuters U.S. News (@ReutersUS) October 2, 2017

Barely anyone remembers what the ATF is supposed to do anymore, and the FBI & DHS aren't likely to spend time on this unless there's some genuine international nexus. I bet there are some analysts who got spun up after that ISIS tweet for 30 minutes or so. This is just going to be a LVPD issue, like every other one of these that isn't San Bernardino or Boston.

We're fucking useless.

dipshit is about to make a speech

The fact they're so sure there's no connection with ISIS suggests they know the motive.

Killer's brother on TV saying no religious or political motives he'd know of.

reminder that one of Trump's first acts in office was to make it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns

to-do:

gun control legislation (out of the question)
thoughts
prayers

fwiw here is a list of the directors of the ATF since 2004

• 2004 Edgar A. Domenech (1st time—acting)
• 2004–2006 Carl Truscott
• 2006 Edgar A. Domenech (2nd time—acting)
• 2006–2009 Michael Sullivan (acting)
• 2009 Ronald "Ronnie" A. Carter (acting)
• 2009–2011 Kenneth E. Melson (acting)
• 2011–2015 B. Todd Jones
• 2015– Thomas Brandon (acting)

maybe a nationwide ban of hotel balconies

what will be awesome is if/when Nevada tries to pass stronger gun legislation at the state level and then Congress passes a law to supersede it - because States' Rights only count when our donors want them to

Two of my high school friends had family in the orbit of this; one's mother was in New York New York at the time of the shooting and the other's husband was working at this event (he and his coworkers are okay).

Las Vegas is the 273rd mass shooting (4+ people shot) in America this year. We're 273 days into the year https://t.co/7kljZd3J0Y

— Mike Rosenberg (@ByRosenberg) October 2, 2017

what absolute horror https://t.co/V0ZY4MViPx pic.twitter.com/XprKnb8D9X

— Alex Press (@alexnpress) October 2, 2017

A surprisingly solid rundown.

We have cnn on mute in the office I'm in today and the faces of some of the people they've interviewed (random survivor guy, the shooter's brother) look high, drunk, and confused. Like the proper facial expression doesn't exist for this so they're just unconsciously mugging while they attempt to make sense of it on camera.

reminder that one of Trump's first acts in office was to make it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns

― frogbs, Monday, October 2, 2017 9:56 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

reminder that keeping registries of "mentally ill" people is fucking odious

I'm so tired of seeing the "we need better mental healthcare" dodge. None of these people would actually support expanded mental healthcare services so just fuck off.

I mean you're talking about expanded government programs, what the fuck else does "better mental healthcare" mean?

i went to bed last night with the first reports rolling in and decided to sleep through the initial inaccurate reports, hoping to wake up to better news than this. it makes me ill. the other week i was thinking about waking up to the news from Orlando, and thinking how the worst part of the current culture is that someone would inevitably perpetrate a worse attack someday.

also:

Police said they had no information about Paddock's motive, that he had no criminal record and was not believed to be connected to any militant group. Paddock killed himself before police entered the hotel room he was firing from, Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo told reporters.

"We have no idea what his belief system was," Lombardo said.

Two senior U.S. government officials told Reuters that Paddock's name was not on any database of suspected terrorists and that there was no evidence linking him to any international militant group.

One of the two U.S. officials discounted a claim of responsibility that was made by Islamic State. There was reason to believe that Paddock had a history of psychological problems, the official said.

...

Lombardo said there were more than 10 rifles in the room where Paddock killed himself. He had checked into the hotel on Thursday.

people can pretend they can keep track of things and crack down but you never can, someone always slips through any loopholes and the shooter is always someone you never thought was capable of such a thing.