Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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That tweet I just posted has been deleted now but you can still see the video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gVf11wSzPY

heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 2 October 2017 09:54 (eight years ago)

open carry in nevada right? hey NRA what's your "philosophy" on this one?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 09:58 (eight years ago)

by the way i would suggest caution before watching the video two posts back. it is not graphic but it is very upsetting.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 09:58 (eight years ago)

Deaths now at 50. This is horrifying to wake up to.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 October 2017 10:45 (eight years ago)

Gunman identified - https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-suspect-is-stephen-paddock-64-of-mesquite.html

64 years old.

JoeStork, Monday, 2 October 2017 10:55 (eight years ago)

it's good to know that "it wasn't terrorism" because he was "a local resident" ffs

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 11:05 (eight years ago)

up to 50 dead now

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 11:07 (eight years ago)

"known to local law enforcement"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 October 2017 11:26 (eight years ago)

oh god dammit

nomar, Monday, 2 October 2017 11:34 (eight years ago)

"no known connection to terrorism muslims"

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 2 October 2017 12:38 (eight years ago)

Jesus, the number of wounded now thought to be over 400.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:24 (eight years ago)

awful. What a truly horrific thing for Americans to wake up to.

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:34 (eight years ago)

Wounded I assume includes people trampled, in shock, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:36 (eight years ago)

Nevada has some of the loosest gun laws in the country (and by extension, the world). Open carry, concealed carry, assault weapons, high capacity magazines, no permits needed, all these things are a free for all. Iirc they recently had to (and won a?) fight even for limited background checks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:38 (eight years ago)

How are we going to keep retired white men away from our country music festivals

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:42 (eight years ago)

I did have to get rid of fruit when I drove into Nevada though

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:47 (eight years ago)

the snapchat news story on this was a collection of snaps from people who were there. the way the gunshots sounded so... not normal, but maybe banal? was probably the most horrifying thing. (i do not recommend watching it if you have a weak stomach.)

anyway i'm sure the thoughts and prayers offered up en masse will make a difference until next time

maura, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)

real cool that the media keeps putting up pictures of a person of color who did not shoot and kill 50 people rather than pictures of the white man who shot and killed 50 people

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:53 (eight years ago)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:00 (eight years ago)

real cool that the media keeps putting up pictures of a person of color who did not shoot and kill 50 people rather than pictures of the white man who shot and killed 50 people

wait who is this in reference to?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:04 (eight years ago)

the filipino girlfriend

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:06 (eight years ago)

who police have already determined was not involved

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:06 (eight years ago)

idk maybe I'm wrong, it's just that the first two news articles I opened this morning had huge pictures of Marilou Danley prominently featured

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:08 (eight years ago)

you're not wrong crut

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:13 (eight years ago)

I get why this happened under Obama but Trump's not exactly a threat to pass any gun legislation so I don't get why stocks are going up

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:13 (eight years ago)

Because more people will feel threatened now? "Boy if it can happen in Vegas, makes u think"?

I've no clue. USA gun stuff is a mystery to me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (eight years ago)

i’m pretty sure my dad is ok but i haven’t checked in yet bc he’s a nra member and my anger is for the moment outweighing my worry

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (eight years ago)

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:16 (eight years ago)

anytime this happens it’s the fucking worst obviously but it happening in my hometown is really fucking me up (everyone i know is, afaik, safe)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:18 (eight years ago)

IsLOLmic State claiming responsibility.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:18 (eight years ago)

1) BREAKING: #ISIS' Amaq claims #LasVegas shooting. Surprising as it sounds, statement issued on legit primary source. https://t.co/nh8zuEPP3N

— Rita Katz (@Rita_Katz) October 2, 2017

xp beat me to it

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:20 (eight years ago)

My brother is out there right now w his wife he was at the MGM Grand at the time and they were on lock down until 4am. They are safe but understandably shaken up.

Legislation is about as likely as cutting defence spending look at our "more divided than ever" two party system setting a shit example at the top w infinite blank checks.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:21 (eight years ago)

xp fuuuuuuuuuck

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:22 (eight years ago)

Not awaiting the Alex Jones hot take.

Eazy, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:24 (eight years ago)

don't they take credit for everything though

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:25 (eight years ago)

Literally every single human being on planet earth pic.twitter.com/AwpOuEINi4

— (((MattSteinglass))) (@mattsteinglass) October 2, 2017

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:27 (eight years ago)

xp Surprisingly they don't! Though they've had some wrong claims in recent months.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:27 (eight years ago)

people buy guns and ammo after events like this. climate of fear = good for gun sales

Specifically, people who already own guns and ammo break out the credit cards and buy more, because no matter who the president is or who is in congress, they know what's coming, any day now. This is a minority of citizens, hopefully that's obvious, but the spike in demand is predictable enough that if you're an institutional investment manager who isn't restricted from trading in guns and ammo stock then it would be irresponsible not to

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:35 (eight years ago)

UPDATE: Senior U.S. officials say no evidence Vegas shooter was connected to international militant group after ISIS claims responsibility

— Reuters U.S. News (@ReutersUS) October 2, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:45 (eight years ago)

Barely anyone remembers what the ATF is supposed to do anymore, and the FBI & DHS aren't likely to spend time on this unless there's some genuine international nexus. I bet there are some analysts who got spun up after that ISIS tweet for 30 minutes or so. This is just going to be a LVPD issue, like every other one of these that isn't San Bernardino or Boston.

We're fucking useless.

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:49 (eight years ago)

dipshit is about to make a speech

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:50 (eight years ago)

The fact they're so sure there's no connection with ISIS suggests they know the motive.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 14:51 (eight years ago)

Killer's brother on TV saying no religious or political motives he'd know of.

nashwan, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:55 (eight years ago)

reminder that one of Trump's first acts in office was to make it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns

frogbs, Monday, 2 October 2017 14:56 (eight years ago)

to-do:

gun control legislation (out of the question)
thoughts
prayers

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:03 (eight years ago)

fwiw here is a list of the directors of the ATF since 2004

  • 2004 Edgar A. Domenech (1st time—acting)
  • 2004–2006 Carl Truscott
  • 2006 Edgar A. Domenech (2nd time—acting)
  • 2006–2009 Michael Sullivan (acting)
  • 2009 Ronald "Ronnie" A. Carter (acting)
  • 2009–2011 Kenneth E. Melson (acting)
  • 2011–2015 B. Todd Jones
  • 2015– Thomas Brandon (acting)
sad lols, B. Todd Jones is now the "Chief Disciplinary Officer" for the NFL

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)

maybe a nationwide ban of hotel balconies

Evan, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)

what will be awesome is if/when Nevada tries to pass stronger gun legislation at the state level and then Congress passes a law to supersede it - because States' Rights only count when our donors want them to

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 October 2017 15:08 (eight years ago)

Two of my high school friends had family in the orbit of this; one's mother was in New York New York at the time of the shooting and the other's husband was working at this event (he and his coworkers are okay).

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 2 October 2017 15:18 (eight years ago)


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