everybody on ilx complains about reddit

In X-Men: First Class, when Magneto asks to see the real Raven, she first assumes the image of Rebecca Romijn who played Mystique in the first X-Men film.
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brain. genius.

I suspect this bullshit can be traced back to Fight Club.

"In Fight Club, the Narrator is talking to Marla and says "When people think you're dying, they really listen to you." At the end of the movie, he asks Tyler "I want you to really listen to me" - and Tyler is suddenly attentive because he thinks he's about to shoot himself."

in the movie fight club things are not what they seem, check it out

there is a guy who might not be a real guy maybe (??)

asking the fellas at my local to see what’s up

Are you all talking about Fight Club?

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/72vpq2/very_pregnant_and_terrified_of_possibly_grossly/

patriarchy is a helluva drug

https://i.imgur.com/nYGVRkv.jpg

Ok that owns, bless her

2) Fiance insists that childcare, housekeeping, and all related family labor will be 95% my responsibility. That it is my job. In exchange I will have room, board, etc for the duration of our marriage. The only assets I will accrue would be those I paid for with income earned on top of this responsibility. Or some very limited amount.

Good grief

I do not identify as a feminist. I frequent red pill women. I like being a girl, and I don't want to screw over a man. But truly, this feels wrong.

i woke up in the middle of the night thinking about this redditor, i was so horrified

Eh, she's got a one in quarter million level Iq, she'll figure something out lol

https://mltshp-cdn.com/r/1CEUA

reddit is extremely good
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/31jwo0/my_wife_33f_found_my_37m_pee_bottles_and_cum/?st=j8km0u6j&sh=43868c45

https://wonkette.com/623993/the-week-in-garbage-men-incels-dream-of-zombie-sex-slaves-to-call-their-own-also-their-own-sisters

there's definitely some amount of performance art going on in the relationship reddits. not as sure about the incels.

not sure how it happened, this guy just found himself w thousands of bottles of pee

Ugh I couldnt finish that Wonkette post. but cmon guys, you know we have these things called sex workers you can pay to do that with right?

(that said I wouldn't wish those incel psychos on anybody, no matter the price)

I’m all in favor of people defining their terms of a relationship with other human beings, up to it being transactional in some way, whether it’s sex work or just some fwb thing... but it’s society, abide by the social contract and realize interacting with other people is something you have to do

It bothers me that we seem to have raised a generation of some extremely unsocialised, fucked up young men.

i'm thinking things like them must always have existed. the problem is now they have circles online where they can congregate and try to normalize their behaviour (to one another), and maybe share terrible ideas.
then we find their online shoeboxes and we can't stop ourselves from analyzing their depravity.

shoeboxes full of cum

i was trying to be subtle, but yes.
shoeboxes full of cum.

incels sub not being banned after all this time is a definite candidate for worst mark against reddit administrative powers ever

it's literally the deep end of violent misogyny and suicide encouragement, they worship elliott rodgers ffs

i have no idea how it's still alive

don't they keep to themselves more or less? those other dark corners were banned for intentionally spreading their bile throughout the site i think.

they keep to themselves until they mass shoot us

Incels: so voluntary

that's generally because their behavior literally isn't allowed anywhere else and if it is it's an edgy teen sub where everything is excused because "humor"

but it's a massive community that's constantly getting more popular. it especially seems to attract a lot of teenagers. it has a shared culture and language and is easily accessible to one of the largest user pools on the internet. they constantly talk about "blackpilling" which is literally... radicalizing outsiders

i'm against the idea that open hate communities are effective 'cages', which is an idea a lot of redditors seem to have. they live for converts, especially right now. incels is the best example imo. it's one of the most extreme, ridiculous hate communities i've ever heard of and it's thriving

Agreed. If this were a radical islam grooming subreddit how long would it last?

i've only just identified the term via google now since y'all brought it up but can someone explain to me (cause i sure as fuck don't wanna read too much - or any - of the literature), why do these guys believe they are truly incapable of having a relationship with a woman? is it just shorthand for "we are owning our sociopathy and acting like it's cool because everybody's doing it"?

They think they are entitled to sleep with women/women have to sleep with them. see also: friendzone, "nice guy", fedora, anyone who talk about "females" and "femoids."
I'm in a facebook group for making fun of right wing memes and it's actually just super depressing but now i know a lot about these fucking kekistani incel mofos.

why do these guys believe they are truly incapable of having a relationship with a woman?

Isn't it more that they think society is all wrong and this is forcing them to be celibate?

so they're entitled to explicitly own a woman by virtue of being born male but society currently tells them they can't and they're bitter about it?
again, i'm pretty sure that's just sociopathic.

It's not that *they* can't, it's that The Feminazi Liberal Conspiracy has told women they can be more than just the owned sex objects of men, so they're being denied their birthrights.

yes and yes xpost

they're under the impression that society has promised them their selection of perfect women, and then when they don't get that, they lash out. there isn't much logic behind the lashing out, it's just what they do for leisure.

keep in mind that the community is extremely self-policing and it's built on reinforcing the idea that every member is the same incel. it's communal self-hatred, which manifests itself as strangers calling each other worthless, unlovable monsters, and anyone who tries to get off the hate train will either be banned or downvoted into oblivion and harassed.

i don't know if they autoban "success stories" (i used to be one of you, now i have a girlfriend) but i know that was a thing at the previous, less-violent incel sub (ForeverAlone). even if they don't autoban, that's the kind of post that would get swarmed with downvotes or deleted.

oh god i should've put that parenthetical in quotes, i am not nor have i ever been an incel lol

They think they are entitled to sleep with women/women have to sleep with them.
― ian, Monday, October 9, 2017 7:55 PM (thirty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually don't think this is quite right. There are some incel types who believe this, but there are others for whom entitlement to sex with women doesn't seem to be part of their worldview. Unfortunately, these others are not generally any less hateful.

What all the Reddit incels seem to have in common is a view of (straight) women as completely ruled by their insatiable sexual appetite for a narrow category of conventionally attractive, hypermasculine men. Any sexual or romantic attention directed at any other man is seen as being motivated by a desire to extract social or financial resources from that man. The fact that women deny this is seen as evidence that they're dishonest and conniving, or that they're childish in their lack of self-awareness, or both.

What this means, according to incels, is that a small proportion of men (often said to be 20%, for some reason) receive sincere sexual interest from women; another, larger proportion sometimes get to have sex with women who aren't really attracted to them and who have ulterior motives (and who are cheating with higher-status men at every opportunity); and some men are so far from meeting basic standards of socially acceptable attractiveness that no woman will have sex with them at all without being paid first.

Incels see themselves as the members of that last category. They often refer to themselves as genetically inferior, as having lost the "genetic lottery", sometimes even as deformed, and see the whole situation as the inevitable result of evolutionary pressures on human behavior. But they still absolutely hate women for it.

I've been fascinated with these guys for a long time--I used to browse the PUA Hate forums, where Elliot Rodger was an occasional poster. I absolutely do not recommend that anyone else develop this interest.

shit is bleak

they sound traumatized by late stage American free market capitalism.

not surprising a lot of these guys are turning to neo-nazi bullshit. its same value system that warped their minds in the first place, it's just called free market capitalism now.

There's no self-awareness for these guys that its nothing to do with being good looking. some of these assholes are good looking! But the bitter, angry, socially-fucked-up vibes come off this type in WAVES, Ive known a few. It is really, really offputting to be around. I honestly dont think some of em even know they come across that way.

I think part of what makes the incel world so seductive to these guys is that it allows them to see themselves as affirming certain obvious truths that "normies" deny. And "it's got nothing to do with being good-looking" is their central example. Because looks do matter a lot--not as much as they believe, but more than people sometimes want to admit. The halo effect is real. Conventional attractiveness does offer a big advantage in sex and dating. Big enough, in fact, that it can sometimes cover up or compensate for serious deficiencies in character. They love to point out that good-looking male abusers, up to and including serial killers, can be very successful with women. (This allows them to scoff at the idea that women are good at detecting bad personalities.)

In fact, the Reddit incels forum has a bot that scans for uses of the word "personality" and auto-replies with a script about Jeremy Meeks, the former felon who got a modeling contract based on his mug shot and who is now reportedly dating some U.K. heiress. I think the first line is "Women don't really care about personality".

There are some obvious replies to all of this, but they all involve a more complex picture of the world in which there's a lot of individual variation among women, and they have no patience for that.

sounds like a self fulfilling propechy

*prophecy

they sound traumatized by late stage American free market capitalism.

not surprising a lot of these guys are turning to neo-nazi bullshit. its same value system that warped their minds in the first place, it's just called free market capitalism now.

― carpet_kaiser, Monday, October 9, 2017 10:18 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this is right.

they have dehumanized women by seeing them as consumers looking to maximize their advantages by pursuing sex with "high value" men. they have dehumanized themselves and other men by ranking them within a sexual hierarchy. nowhere in this scheme is there a space for genuine human connection.

i read a book by thich nhat hanh where he defined hell as anywhere where there is a lack of compassion. i think that's what these MRA and alt right forums are. little hells.