Dear Morrissey . . .

ok so he's horrible now but there's no way I'm not listening to "Who Will Protect Us from the Police?" at least once

spoiler alert: muscular skinheads will protect us from the police

almost definitely

this is kinda funny
https://youtu.be/kVTzT3FmxhI

Sing the third. Also be a racist curmudgeon.

also lolling at "you want to avoid that note (the root) like it's meat, like it's a prime cut of veal".

Well, it's different

Oh dear. A friend has just texted to say there has been an "awkward silence" during a Radio 6 interview after UKIP were mentioned.

Interstitial comments between songs on a 6music live set, but yeah he tried to make a joke about Anne Marie Waters having the UKIP election stolen from her.

Oh look, *friends*

Morrissey backs anti-Islam politician Anne Marie Waters during 6 Music session https://t.co/65cSmqdBlL via @NME

— Anne Marie Waters (@AMDWaters) October 2, 2017

In order to deliver his message clearly ("all journalists are megastars and the only aim of their interview is to express and establish their own personal views, and to hell with whatever the interviewee says"), Morrissey has just published an interview with himself on his website.

Let's see what he has to say about Hitler and racism

as far as racism goes, the modern Loony Left seem to forget that Hitler was Left wing! But of course, we are all called racist now, and the word is actually meaningless. It’s just a way of changing the subject. When someone calls you racist, what they are saying is ”hmm, you actually have a point, and I don’t know how to answer it, so perhaps if I distract you by calling you a bigot we’ll both forget how enlightened your comment was.”

On halal meat

both parties support halal slaughter, which, as we all know, is evil. Furthermore, halal slaughter requires certification that can only be given by supporters of ISIS, and yet in England we have halal meat served in hospitals and schools!

(this is followed with videos of halal slaughter)

And on his best mate Anne Marie Waters

There is a new party called For Britain. They have the best approach to animal welfare, whereas no other party even bothers to mention animal welfare. The EU will not protect animals from halal or kosher practice. For Britain seem to say what many British people are currently thinking, which is why the BBC or Channel 4 News will not acknowledge them, because, well, For Britain would change British politics forever … and we can’t have that!

The full thing is here - http://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey

As someone who made my friends drive me 500 miles to a Smiths gig in 1986, I’d like to throw this fucker into the swill pit of a halal abattoir and let him drown there, preferably while Meat is Murder plays on loudspeakers.

^^What She Said

Ugh I read a bit more to depress myself further

He continues: "London is second only to Bangladesh for acid attacks. All of the attacks are non-white, and so they cannot be truthfully addressed by the British government or the Met Police or the BBC because of political correctness. What this means is that the perpetrator is considered to be as much of a victim as the actual victim. We live in the Age of Atrocity."

What a lying cunt.

Buddy of mine in college always like to point out about sXe people we knew that once you go so far left wing you end up on the right. Looks like Morrissey has gone way over the same threshold.

is he also against typography

morrissey you hideous turd

Don't agree with the horseshoe business, in general and in this specific case. Morrissey hasn't gone "so far left wing you end up on the right" - he's just a racist old man who happens to approach it from an animal rights POV.

xxxp alternatively, he was just always a racist dick from day one - this interview is from 1986, for example

Obviously to get on Top Of The Pops these days, one has to be, by law, black. I think something political has occurred among Michael Hurl and his friends and there has been a hefty pushing of all these black artists and all this discofied nonsense into the Top 40. I think, as a result, that very aware younger groups that speak for now are being gagged."
You seem to be saying that you believe that there is some sort of black pop conspiracy being organised to keep white indie groups down.
"Yes, I really do."
Morrissey goes on: "The charts have been constructed quite clearly as an absolute form of escapism rather than anything anyone can gain any knowledge by. I find that very disheartening because it wasn't always that way. Isn't it curious that practically none of these records reflect life as we live it? Isn't it curious that 93 and a half percent of these records relect life as it isn't lived? That foxes me!"
"If you compare the exposure that records by the likes of Janet Jackson and the stream of other anonymous Jacksons get to the level of daily airplay that The Smiths receive - The Smiths have had at least 10 consecutive chart hits and we still can't get on Radio 1's A list. Is that not a conspiracy? The last LP ended up at number two and we were still told by radio that nobody wanted to listen to The Smiths in the daytime. Is that not a conspiracy? I do get the scent of a conspiracy."

http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/quotes/abroad.htm

All of the attacks are non-white, and so they cannot be truthfully addressed by the British government or the Met Police or the BBC because of political correctness.

Hey, let's have a look at the most high-profile acid attacking case so far - here's the perpetrator.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/19/07/arthur-collins.jpg

🤔

What a dick. If he was just anti carnivore, fine, but to specify halal and kosher preparation? Fuck you, Morrissey.

There is a new party called For Britain. They have the best approach to animal welfare, whereas no other party even bothers to mention animal welfare

just gonna stick my neck out here and suggest this may be just a little more detailed than whatever AMW and her dozy mates have published: https://policy.greenparty.org.uk/ar.html

but there's no arguing with an idiot this hateful tbh

LOL like Morrissey has ever been left wing, let alone so far left he ends up right wing.

Green Party wouldn't ban halal slaughter, this is his number one concern, For Britain do actually seem to be the party that best represent the nazi vegan viewpoint at the moment.

Hitler was a veget... oh, what's the point?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/AnimalRightsNaziGermany.jpg

I've been teasing this out in my head all morning. So: Morrissey puts forth the argument that "animals = humans". If this equivalency is contested, he has an emotional response, and claims that people who don't share this view are cruel. This is essentially a polemical bear trap. With Morrissey wielding this equivalency like a magical talisman, he is able to make racist blanket statements-- most of which are based on non-facts and/or stereotypes, like "Chinese people butcher dogs" and "Inuit people club baby seals" and "Halal butchers must apply to ISIS to get licensed". His vegetarianism is a smokescreen for his racism.

As one of my closest friends-- himself a Morrissey acolyte-- has himself made racist statements to me regarding the seal hunt, defending his position behind an overwhelming emotional attachment to "being a voice for animal rights". It has made me wonder whether "vegetarianism breeds misanthropy, which then distills itself into permitting oneself to have racist ideas and opinions", or whether "racism uses vegetarianism as a method to enact systems of white supremacy"-- or if it's some combination of the two.

Either way I don't think of Morrissey-being-an-idiot on terms of left or right, or wish to ascribe blanket statements like "vegetarianism is a product of the white bourgeoisie" or whatever. There is something wrong with him and it's the same thing that's wrong with every white man who ages out of relevancy

Green Party wouldn't ban halal slaughter, this is his number one concern, For Britain do actually seem to be the party that best represent the nazi vegan viewpoint at the moment.

i don't think morrissey has ever said he's vegan tbh and for britain definitely are not. johnny marr is though and he's a pretty good guy imo

And Johnny Marr lives in Britain, afaik.

No problem with vegans, just nazi vegans, who seem to be quite a tiny minority of vegans. (Morrissey does seem to be a vegan btw, see hilarious section of the interview about looking for eggs in Tesco)

He used to live on egg and chips.

A tee-total vegan, god help us he will probably make it to 140.

"vegetarianism breeds misanthropy, which then distills itself into permitting oneself to have racist ideas and opinions"

i think this is a thing that animal rights communities are aware of and strive to challenge - it's something you see arguments about on social media farily frequently - but as far as my own experience goes i reckon the level of prejudice within animal welfare/animal rights groups is somewhat less than you'd encounter in wider society?

We should hash this out somewhere. I know a pretty good Argentinian Steakhouse, Nick :p

i mean, a lot of animal rights people come from the whole social justice/environmental justice axis xp

Thought Morrissey was supposed to be a beer monster tbh

I seem to remember him talking of his admiration for English football hooligans, so perhaps he is some kind of failed version of a beer monster/lad type, with added racism and shit lyrics.

I heard Sheila Take a Bow for the first time yesterday, in the lobby of a hotel. Dear Morrissey, your band’s shit.

@ NickB the efforts of animal rights groups have effectively devastated an economy of seal hunting, butchering and selling of seal fur, that Inuit people in Canada have historically relied upon for their survival. The methods used to advance the propaganda of the seal hunt include dissemination of incorrect information and statistics.

Recent protests by animal rights activists in Toronto involved picketing a "farm-to-table" carnivore restaurant that engaged in sustainable and humane practice. The hypocrisy of having animal rights activists protest a restaurant that was making an attempt at a more ethical method of carnivorism caused the restaurant's popularity to spike-- it is now always full. People argued that these protesters ought to be picketing McDonald's, or any other restaurant that relied upon factory-farm processes.

I myself suppose that the impulse that drives people toward isolating individual groups (the Inuit; upper-middle-class-white-people-in-my-neighbourhood-with-affectations-toward-farm-to-table-dining) and targeting them as being cruel and unjust and inhumane is rooted in the synapse between "an emotional response toward images of animal cruelty" and racism or anti-bourgeois sentiment, respectively. Hate the seal hunt because you're racist. Hate nose-to-tail because you hate the bourgeois. Hate people in fur coats because you hate the rich. Either way, they're forms of misanthropy-- not actually targeting the war-machines against animals, but sublimating latent forms of misanthropy and using animal rights as a weapon toward expressing hatred for your fellow humans

I have no opinion either way, I think the best method of convincing people toward veganism/vegetarianism is by learning how to cook vegan and doing so spectacularly

He also goes on a tear about Sadiq and his “inability to speak properly.” Something tells me Sadiq’s perfectly charming South London accent wasn’t the issue...

He’s so awful. Makes you almost grateful he doesn’t use twitter.

@ NickB the efforts of animal rights groups have effectively devastated an economy of seal hunting, butchering and selling of seal fur, that Inuit people in Canada have historically relied upon for their survival. The methods used to advance the propaganda of the seal hunt include dissemination of incorrect information and statistics.

yeah, i can't argue in support of that and i can only speak for my own experience in the UK i'm afraid. would agree that protests targeted at specific ethnic groups is inherently racist and i will never support such campaigns. ironically you could quote a smiths song here: barbarism begins at home - it should be the injustices in your own community that you should be looking at, whether that's animal exploitation or social injustice or whatever. fortunately i haven't encountered organised campaigning from the animal rights sector in the UK that specifically addresses halal slaughter (i'm not saying it doesn't exist though, it just hasn't penetrated my own particular bubble; i do stay waaaay clear of PETA though and wouldnt be entirely shocked if they were thoughtlessly banging away at that drum). the people i have heard speaking out about it are pretty much out and out racists like morrissey, or it's been yer man-in-the-street oi-guv average guy necrovore expressing anguish that the animals they've consumed have experienced pain and suffering as though all other beings killed for meat in a proper british way just peacefully pass away, blissfully unaware of their fate (so yeah, these guys are pretty much racists too)

sorry i'm rambling, will think about the rest of your post later

Something like 90-95% of halal meat in the UK is pre-stunned, meaning the only significant difference is a few extra prayers, iiirc.

Moz has lived too long; what a shitbird

wow so sad that morrissey died in 1994 shortly after releasing vauxhall and i

Headline: extremely conceited person thinks everyone else should fuck off and pretends to care a tremendous amount about things that aren’t other people

@ NickB the efforts of animal rights groups have effectively devastated an economy of seal hunting, butchering and selling of seal fur, that Inuit people in Canada have historically relied upon for their survival. The methods used to advance the propaganda of the seal hunt include dissemination of incorrect information and statistics.

oops sorry, just backing up here: one thing i meant to add is that possibly the racism inherent in this activism is not out of keeping with racism towards inuits across wider society? this may be an example of that societal racism in practice, rather than prejudice exclusive to whatever AR groups were involved

I think the best method of convincing people toward veganism/vegetarianism is by learning how to cook vegan and doing so spectacularly

agreed!!

it pisses me off that racist man-children like Morrissey and toothless dorks like Moby feel so entitled to spout all this ignorant, offensive bullshit and turn animal rights activism into a punching bag once again.

Morrissey. pic.twitter.com/skhglv6U2i

— Mark Gillies (@5goalthriller) April 17, 2018

Green Party wouldn't ban halal slaughter, this is his number one concern, For Britain do actually seem to be the party that best represent the nazi vegan viewpoint at the moment.

i don't think morrissey has ever said he's vegan tbh and for britain definitely are not. johnny marr is though and he's a pretty good guy imo

― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:24 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Johnny Marr lives in Britain, afaik.

― (Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Tuesday, April 17, 2018 7:25 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

johnny marr was living in portland recent iirc. and yes, morrissey is not a vegan, which is quite hilarious - dairy industry is equally as cruel as meat industry - and usually involved with it - and involves lots of slaughter