Mulholland Drive

eric OTM

yes

"So little enthusiasm" -- wha??

Naomi Watts even got faint Oscar buzz

so little enthusiasm in this thread, i think they meant

yes, I meant this thread

Mulholland Drive came out when ILX was down and all the discus was on the Sandbox iirc

yah we were goin nutz for it i saw it like 5 times in the theater

there's a couple of copies of ilx.thehold.net and sandbox.thehold.net on archive.org but I can't find that discussion I think

i saw this in the theater when it came out, it was amazing, and i was on ILX at the time, but didnt really bother posting here. don't take the lack of posts for a lack of enthusiasm me and my friends drove around the parking lot afterwards screaming with joy.

i saw it when it came out and immediately stabbed my eyes out so i would never see another movie ever again

....naido?

NA eyed 0

Holy shit lynch is a genius

lol

it was right there, staring us all in the face for all these years

this explains the lack of posts. you can't see what you are writing when you have no eyes

When I first saw his movie, I immediately started it over and watched it again.

I watched it on two screens simultaneously

seeing this in a theater that looks just like Silencio earlier this year was one of the best moviegoing experiences i've ever had

Yeah I have vivid memories of seeing an advance free screening of this on my college campus. Was stunned by how great it was. When the cowboy gave his "You will see me one more time if you do good; you will see me two more times if you do bad" bite I remember laughing at how clever it was. The rest of the movie the audience gasped whenever he appeared on screen. This is Lynch's most entertaining movie by a mile.

I don't know how to objectively measure "most acclaimed," but here MD is 64th, Blue Velvet 77th.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films.htm

i always thought The Elephant Man was his mainstream claim to fame but on that list it's at 464. i need to rewatch it, i remember seeing it when i lived in this house with SCAD video artists and really liking it.

Mulholland Drive was just an endless series of crazy events. it felt like someone had observed a random movie or television scene while going through an out of body experience. perhaps how an alien would replicate the human drama, only it was purposefully sending up the formalisms that tend to be taken for granted. it was thrilling to watch.

holy shit! what was with that crazy bluescreen swing scene? we lol'd almost immediately at that and the super grinny old folks with Naomi Watts as she arrives at this weird artificial California. when they are in the limo it's so comically grotesque. we almost fell out of the chairs when Billy Ray Cyrus showed up. that casting! wtf? this was years before Miley, years before his ironic cultural resurgence, years past being a Weird Al joke. David Lynch wrote him the perfect character. same with the cowboy, who apparently wasn't an actor, and who couldn't remember his lines. they had to write them on notecards and tape them to Jon Favreau's face for him to do the scene and he did it perfectly. when he shows up, i was like, what the literal fuck? that was this movie endlessly. Club Silencio -- it is all a tape! the hand signals and the trumpets!

much like the new Twin Peaks it was a lot of scenes that may not necessarily narratively connect but for sure are connected through symbols and the artistic language of emotions through more abstract forms such as lighting, colors, themes, motifs, dialog repetition, etc. i am glad to see he has gotten the opportunity to work with Naomi again! it is extra poignant when you consider Mulholland Drive was conceived at one point as a Twin Peaks spinoff.

lol when the cowboy shows up. WTF. ROTFLITMT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0stnhrOj6p8

this is really cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HytOc0KxFGU

Location trail
http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/mulholland-drive-david-lynch-locations

wow, had no idea that Diane's apartment was in the Snow White cottages. that Elliott Smith connection is nuts, yeah he spent a lot of time there in the last years of his life, sadly living very similarly to Diane, productive but completely cracked out and losing it...

pretty certain that steph1n merr1tt also lived there for a time, based on a memory from the documentary from a few years back.

that Elliott Smith connection is nuts

Positively. Didn't know what I saw when I read that!

Iirc he lived there during some of the writing for Figure 8 and maybe Basement but it wasn’t very long...

though now a 1br goes for ~$2700

you can rent a cheaper 1br on the western/nicer side of west hollywood

pretty certain that steph1n merr1tt also lived there for a time, based on a memory from the documentary from a few years back.

He wrote a song about it, "In the Snow White Cottages," which references Mulholland Drive, Elliott Smith and The Raveonettes.

covered love theme from this score, from my favourite film

https://we.tl/1Nc19Gj3Ls

you made this, Ross?

here's mp3

https://we.tl/oH8IxWLaQV

yeah i did

It's really good mate.

thanks :)

buddy helped with beats, but yeah played all synth parts/outro

i like it a lot!

thanks jed, appreciate that

love the dark minute at the end.

cool, total homage to my love of lynch

This is really neat Ross! Love the dark ending but also the beats.

my favourite movie of all time...?

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— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) October 16, 2018

For those as clueless as I was, MULHOLLAND DR's twinning and identity blurring shares a lot of DNA with Bergman's PERSONA, Rivette's CÉLINE ET JULIE VONT EN BATEAU and Altman's 3 WOMEN - all are great and provide a nice counterpoint.
Which is of course to ignore the gender politics of these four men writing and making movies about women having unstable and ill defined identities which can be pushed around.

When I saw this thread pop up I knew it would be that meme

I'm always surprised Meshes of the Afternoon isn't brought up more tbh

matthew, also this movie is totally indebted to sunset boulevard

this movie is indebted to a lot of movies

Telephone Thing otm about Meshes of the Afternoon too fwiw

Agreed Ross - and there's even a Gordon Cole in SUNSET BLVD! I was highlighting the twinned-women microgenre.

that's a p big microgenre. you left out Vertigo for ex.

well, you also dislike JFK.

I like this film but I’m not gonna pretend I don’t know what “it’s like” means

Just saw it for the first time … nothing especially profound to say about it except that the Club Silencio scenes were … I mean, why was I so affected by watching two actresses cry during the (astounding) Rebekah del Rio song? And Betty shaking uncontrollably … Twin Peaks has electricity, this move just has street lights, set lights, orgasm.

(that shot of Diane at the party with the ridiculous bokeh - something about her vulnerability, while she’s surrounded by … spirits? Or maybe just glamour. But I prefer to think it’s friendly spirits she’s unaware of.)

Incredible movie, the smoke, the blue, the guilt, Dianne lying dead on her bed in her own dream/reality, getting what she wants from Rita

I need to give Inland Empire another go. I basically completely agree with Deems' assessment above, but watching this again has got me feeling maybe it was a me problem.

I have a perhaps-fringe opinion that FWWM theatrical is a sub-par film but my recent viewing of a fan edit (Blue Rose) is a contender for one of the best films ever made

S3 is Lynch’s masterpiece imo and Mulholland Drive is his best no-caveats theatrical work

I love Lost Highway more than most and dislike Wild At Heart more than most. I’m going to rewatch Inland Empire this week

It’s funny, having rewatched the entire Twin Peaks thing this year, and finished it, there’s a veneer of dissatisfaction when viewing anything else, it all feels so comparatively unsatisfying

My biggest revelation in the rewatch was that Angelo’s score for FWWM (mostly the first third) is some of the best music imaginable

otm

"S3 is Lynch’s masterpiece imo and Mulholland Drive is his best no-caveats theatrical work"

agreed

i must catch blue rose edit

same.

fgti, your post triggered a jagged memory of FWWM, i posted it on that thread for continuity sake.

In hindsight, one reason why I like the final season of Twin Peaks so much is that so many of the stranded and unsatisfying elements from Fire Walk with Me and the abrupt end that was the second season now find their place in relation to each other and are taken to fruition. There's still a lot of plot still left on the table, but not in a way that leaves the show feeling "unfinished." That was always the disappointment of finishing the original two-season run when I saw it back in the '00s, a couple of years before the DVD's happened when nobody was talking about Twin Peaks anymore, at least anyone within my social scope at the time. It felt like a sad ending to a brilliant pop phenomenon, one that quickly fell apart and was left twisting in the wind. Not in a million years would I have guessed Lynch would get carte blanche to do a third and final season - it really is a gift.

Lot of David Lynch-loving cinephiles waking up to this gift this morning. Thank you, #EverybodysLive! I fell off my chair. pic.twitter.com/b3E6AGStSP

— Courtney Howard (@Lulamaybelle) April 17, 2025

I've declined the opportunity to see Mulholland Drive in the theater now the last two times it's come up this year in my city; once shortly after Lynch's death and then once as part of a greater Lynch retrospective. The thing of it is that I'd already seen it in theaters a couple times already in the relatively recent past plus a couple more times at home, and while "no hay banda" and "silencio" had me very shook and impressed once I came up with an interpretation of them that worked for me, going back to MD now after seeing it four times in four years felt a little bit like work, whereas I'm planning on going to see Inland Empire in the theater on Monday precisely because I've never had a satisfactory viewing experience with it trying to watch it at home. Does that make sense? MD is a great film and I love it, and yet I've just avoided seeing it in the best way possible now, twice?

sure. there are films I’d count among the best I’ve seen that I have no plans to watch again, and others I’d watch any time. if you become too familiar with something, elements that were shocking or impactful can become expected

I caught Inland Empire and The Elephant Man at my theatre's retrospective, but the time didn't seem ripe for most of the others. Lynch is one whose films I don't really want to see more than maybe once a decade.

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