Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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finally! i hope it was worth something.

Love that scene

Man, those conversations about Judy on Reddit are exhausting. Find it hard to care at all about the mysterious, vaguely defined evil that may or may not have even been shown on screen.

These Twin Peaks post-morts and dissections make me a little sad... glad people are debating, but the fact that they're focusing so much on shit we didn't see, and that takes up just a relative sliver of the show's 18 hours, is depressing. That entire Reddit thread is like a desperate attempt for fulfillment

yeah i've checked out. i liked seeing reactions as the show ran but the never ending recapitulation and assessments are tiresome and boring.

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— David Lynch (@DAVID_LYNCH) September 12, 2017

Bill Hader?

Guessing they're friends or something

To ask a dumb question -- Cole dumps Judy exposition at the top of ep 17, but is it even really clear from that description that Judy is evil?

I think he explicitly says it but that's iirc

"negative"

an “extreme negative force”

I was thinking of Twin Peaks being this fictional alternate universe that is running along, a little more wholesome than our own, except for the intervention of this external force that brings negative energy

Judy is the injection of the real world into the Twin Peaks world. Judy's agent is... David Lynch, who even wrote himself into that world as a good guy

Judy = comments section of every website ever

^^ gets it

"Talking about Judy" = making David Lynch talk about the meaning of his work and destroy mysteries.

i also have a dumb question -- when cole dumps the judy exposition, are we the viewer supposed to have an idea or to surmise anything in particular about how he would have been aware of cooper's plan?

(possible that this question is only coming to mind with me now a week on having forgotten some glaring indicators)

coworker pointed out something interesting yesterday--

Ben's assistant Beverly's last name is Paige. And she doesn't know who Laura Palmer is

are we the viewer supposed to have an idea or to surmise anything in particular about how he would have been aware of cooper's plan

haha I wondered about this too cuz at what point were Cooper, the Major and Cole all together to hatch this plan - some point towards the end of season 2, I guess?

OMG...is Carrie the final missing page?

lol

Carry page home

haha I wondered about this too cuz at what point were Cooper, the Major and Cole all together to hatch this plan - some point towards the end of season 2, I guess?

Or after season 2, and it was Mr C plotting with an unaware Briggs and Cole

I wonder how long Mr. C kept up appearances as a slick FBI agent. Like, when did he become greasy & weather-beaten?

The retcon about Cooper, Briggs and Cole hatching a plan for Judy is the thing that's been grating on me the most. I don't think it was Mr. C posing as Cooper, everyone consistently figures out quickly there's something very wrong with him.

Better than reddit (not saying much but...):

http://ew.com/recap/twin-peaks-season-3-finale/

I dreamt last night that some German channel was the first to broadcast a surprise Season 4, but it didn't involve Lynch or most of the main actors/characters; e.g. there was no Coop, though there were some returning minor characters from all three seasons. While it started out vaguely interesting if a bit generic, it went downhill fast, a bit like the weakest moments of Season 2 but even less defensible. I gave up once it turned out that the character of Diane featured in the series after all but was played by someone who wasn't Laura Dern.

We all know dreams are super important in Twin Peaks etc. etc.

Just brought Windham Hell up on the neoclassical metal thread but their first album had a Twin Peaks theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jJ8VuLon4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c7rSsnDIAs

I don't think it was Mr. C posing as Cooper, everyone consistently figures out quickly there's something very wrong with him.

Very quickly = after 25 years of corruption. It's explicit in the show that he fooled people for (weeks? months? years?) before disappearing and taking up his Mr C. life.

I was under the impression he disappeared from TP pretty quickly, after being seen by Doc Hayward (who sensed something was wrong) at the hospital and the fire at Major Briggs' station, both of which I think happened very soon after the s2 finale.

I thought about this too! It's clear that Briggs was in contact with Cooper in the Lodge so they might also have formed their plan after the season 2 finale.

that's actually the stuff I would love to see; obviously they can never really film it, not in a realistic style, but I really want to know what happened right after season 2. maybe mark frost is going to blather about it in this dumb book I already paid for.

I kinda love when lynch has someone fire out a load of exposition, he makes sure to show his boredom with it most of the time, the reactions of the listening characters is always hilariously blank and polite and with that job done he can get on with the important imagery of the Bowie Hookah

don't forget mr c traveled back in time and fooled people before laura palmer was even murdered!

There's an elecrical pole outside Laura Palmers house in ep 18 which has the same numbers on it as a pole in Twin Peaks in episode 6, where Richard kills the kid, and apparently also on a pole in Fire Walk With Me. I don't think the lodge dwellers left Laura alone in the other world.

http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/wpforo/default_attachments/1497301807-pole-6-fwwm.jpg

are the other numbers the same?

The 2 times that pole appeared before the finale it was in connection to Harry Dean Stanton's scenes. Don't know how that ties in.

I kinda love when lynch has someone fire out a load of exposition, he makes sure to show his boredom with it most of the time, the reactions of the listening characters is always hilariously blank and polite and with that job done he can get on with the important imagery of the Bowie Hookah

Will never not love cole's deliciously deadpan, slow, deliberate delivery of far too much information, especially when it's a massive 11th-hour retcon that they know will make nerds insane

I think it ties into Harry Dean Stanton because he is kinda tied into the spirits and especially Garmonbozia. He is a comforter among the downtrodden, the sorrowful, those in pain. Those that the spirits prey on.

Also he is upstairs at the palmer house

In the extended version of the ending he leans his face out of the bedroom window and whispers "2003"

Oh. Well I guess the show is solved, then.

That ew article is really long and has some interesting things but I disagree with like 80% of it. Hard to understand how someone can spend that much time writing about the show and come up with odd conclusions.

also it's terribly written

honestly, TP inspires so many hot takes, you get diminishing returns on even the ones you agree with pretty quickly

otm