Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

http://bonobo.jones.free.fr/cinema/clues.jpg

http://bonobo.jones.free.fr/cinema/clues.jpg

like this kind of thing

yeah there were even more in the DVD liners. and they all have answers

lol @ "if you don't get it the first time see it again"

lol that's not great advice, most people don't want to treat a movie like it's a video game with puzzles/keys to open doors

sure about that

sure about what? my post is in reference to "if you don't see it the first time, see it again"

oh i thought you were talking about the list of clues

"see it again" is definitely lol marketing (so is the list ofc)

Never seen that MD flyer before. When Dune first came out, theaters handed out a glossery sheet.

DVD liner went one stage further (mine is different, but has the same questions):

https://garmonblogzia.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/24073-muldriveinsert.jpg

I'm not sure whether I remember being handed a list of clues on theatrical release, if I'm honest.

I remember it, but it had 10 like yours - but the one I posted was from UGC and that would have been where I saw it. I also remember it saying "David Lynch wants you to understand...etc.", but it was a long time ago, so who knows.

Either way, I think Lynch wrote them? Under pressure from the studio, no doubt, but still.

I definitely wasn't handed a list of study suggestions

Having not looked into it yet, I'm agnostic about whether scenes from the last two episodes sync up, but it seems pretty absurd to dismiss the notion out of hand, given that we've already seen an instance of two scenes that were fairly obviously intended to sync up (Judy emerging from the glass box/Coop and Naido in Purple Palace).

The problem isn't whether they sync up, but whether they sync up significantly better than any other two episodes, when watched by a motivated viewer.

maybe every single episode syncs up with the others.

If anything I'd promote the first and last - people like that kind of symmetry (and lynch does echo things between them, I think - still only watched it all once)

Anyone remember the game Deadly Premonition? It was way more derivative of Lynch than Silent Hill was. The first trailer was so similar to Twin Peaks that it looked like a ripoff but they changed things as the game developed.
It was supposed to be quite awkward but it had a fair number of huge fans.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/deadlypremonition/deadlypremonition.htm

Yeah, I was thinking about returning to that after abandoning it ages ago. It's an incredibly janky game in terms of mechanics but very very odd.

The non-Lynch work I've felt the most inspired to return to since the end of The Return is Frank (and Jim Woodring's work in general).

Ha yeah I was thinking of Jim as a viable post Peaks port to land in. Mahler symphonies have been my main succor in this comedown zone. Might have to reread the book of the new sun about now.

I have been wondering - when was the last time people who love narrative art have been collectively churning in a wake of this size? I was thinking, after the first complete performance of the Ring cycle, or, on a broader timescale, the whole generation of writers musicians and painters in the generation after Wagner. Is there a more recent example of a scene of global digestion of a piece of work so massive, strange, ambiguous and ridiculously self-hyperlinked?

Harry potter

Lost

Nakhchivan

Look What You Made Me Do

The problem isn't whether they sync up, but whether they sync up significantly better than any other two episodes

I dunno, I think 1/2 and 17/18 are special in that they were released simultaneously, so I think it does make more sense to look particularly to those two pairs for syncing magic.

Feel the same. Not had time yet tho

Just reread dan clowes Like a Velvet Glive Cast in Iron for the first time in years and it felt very Lynch, by way of Coen bros maybe.

As far as synced episodes go, here's what producer Sabrina Sutherland had to say in her reddit AMA the other day

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WmLwbURWMNy6OmzV2

Well that image didn't work so I'll just copy and paste:

TeapotJeffries 14 points 17 hours ago
Hey Sabrina! Thank you so much for helping to bring forth some of the most amazing TV ever!
Have you heard of the sync theory, where people have been watching multiple episodes simultaneously? Are we as crazy as we think we probably are.... or....

SabrinaSOfficial 66 points 15 hours ago
I have only just heard of this. I know the show was never intended to be screened like this. I don't know what to think!

well that should definitely put an end to that theory forever

That's walking it back slightly from her response the first time she was asked which was basically "lol what, no"

xp oh, I am sure it will (lol)

Her response when someone asked about Donna was "Donna didn't work out this season, unfortunately."

i skimmed a sync of 17/18, even if it's a coincidence (really hard to believe when you see it), the ending is just incredible. echoing Karl upthread, it's so beautiful & uplifting - suggests Judy has been defeated

what if you watch the finale with your eyes closed, I bet that changes the ending entirely too

If you watch the series backwards it ends with a cryptic scene between Cooper and The Fireman

see, I tried that, but it just turned into an episode of Ray Donovan

A discussion of a David Lynch project is maybe the last place I would've expected to see such hardline arguments for the primacy of authorial intent but whatever floats y'all's boats, I guess.

I don't care what Lynch's intentions were...? I'm just not really convinced by "watch show in THIS way" arguments revealing anything significant. Sure they may be entertaining or diversionary but that's about it.

There are so many echoes that occur, twinned moments in different episodes, symmetries etc. I don't think there's any definitive way to view this thing, but some parts are so clearly meant to be cross-dimensional correspondences it's not really that much of a jump that synchronising some sequences would compliment/correspond. The Sarah smashing Laura pic/Coop & Carrie outside the house bit is stunning to watch in tandem.

the Candie, Mandie, Sandie entrance is very similar to this incredible and weird af scene from BV

https://imgur.com/a/yfAy1

https://imgur.com/a/yfAy1

https://imgur.com/e9Lh3pp

?

https://i.imgur.com/ogwzRi7.jpg

finally! i hope it was worth something.

Love that scene

Man, those conversations about Judy on Reddit are exhausting. Find it hard to care at all about the mysterious, vaguely defined evil that may or may not have even been shown on screen.

These Twin Peaks post-morts and dissections make me a little sad... glad people are debating, but the fact that they're focusing so much on shit we didn't see, and that takes up just a relative sliver of the show's 18 hours, is depressing. That entire Reddit thread is like a desperate attempt for fulfillment

yeah i've checked out. i liked seeing reactions as the show ran but the never ending recapitulation and assessments are tiresome and boring.

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Bill Hader?

Guessing they're friends or something