It's amazing that Bodie gets your sympathy back over the next few seasons, after what happens to Wallace - that guy (JD Williams) doesn't seem to have done as well as other members of the cast, but great performance
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
yeah otm
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link
Oh he does not
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:35 (six years ago) link
Halfway through season three and enjoying this, with the exception of maverick cop who plays by his own rules McNulty. If one more woman throws herself at him no matter how drunk or annoying he's being (at this point it'll probably be Kima, gay or they're working together and she has a vagina) or he does anything as flatout stupid as his "English" accent that got him into the brothel, I'll take a break.
― albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
*not. Sorry to rant but so many aspects of this show're just as great as I've heard, so this cartoonish cliché of a copy show character really sticks out and spoils things.
― albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 06:56 (six years ago) link
Yeah McNulty is a very tedious + one note character, and the actor who plays him is shite imo as well. Probably one of the main reasons I dislike this show, aside from all the other irritating Simonisms.
― calzino, Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:59 (six years ago) link
I think it was a combo of Brooker and my older brother's endless Wire proselytising that convinced me it must be dud. I think at the time my brother often used to pass off Brooker opinions as his own, and was smoking too much weed and in not in full possession of his own mind.
― calzino, Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:10 (six years ago) link
it's a great show. there are huge flaws. david simon screaming his messages at you constantly being one of them. and yes, mcnulty, virtually the protagonist is in many ways a tired tv trope of a character. but i think there's too much good in there to allow the flaws to dissuade anyone from watching
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link
there is lots of good in it as well, of course, but I just can't get past the bad stuff!
― calzino, Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/mcnulty-uniform.gif
― pplains, Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:39 (six years ago) link
McNulty is p much dropped as 'central' character by season 3 and is widely reviled as a dick whose womanising is an impediment to his functioning as a grown adult
But let's be real even drunk dickish Dominic West is not going home alone most nights so let's all keep our grip here ok
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 September 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link
With vivalbertine on McNutty but his ikea scene makes up for a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRRHb2WphWs
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 23 September 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
I can see how the McNulty plot could spoil season 2 for people. Yeah, there's some major bad bullshit in there, and it doesn't much have to do with anything. I love the scene where he re-checks the current maps out of spite. But it's really not a coincidence that the best season is the one with the least McNulty.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 23 September 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link
I know the feeling. I'm halfway through season 5 and getting a bit tired of the whole fake serial killer thing already. It's like some kind of comedy caper.
― heaven parker (anagram), Saturday, 23 September 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
no one defends that bit in fairness
― Number None, Saturday, 23 September 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
*cop show character, not copy. Glad I'm not the only one who finds him tedious.
― albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
I didn't mind the serial killer thing tbh. the scene with the profiler is a riot.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
While I'm at it, "self-destructive alcolholic" shouldn't really equal dude who has sex all the time and occasionally turns up to work with a mild hangover. There was the time he crashed his car, which seemed promising, but it just resulted in a cafe waitress adding herself to the menu cos barely conscious bleeding McNulty was just too damn tasty.
― albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
I'm cool with mcnulty as a character up til his S5 storyline (despite some of its highlights cf the profiler scene), he's probably the most likable of the premium cable fuckups bc he's just a dude with a chip on his shoulder about the system pushing people around as opposed to a charismatic and amoral antihero. His comedy bits are pretty good imo and on the flip side a scene like his confrontation with d'angelo's mom was pretty powerful. Always liked the progression of his relationship w/bodie too.
― nomar, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
imo we're seeing the world through McNulty's eyes in the beginning and as the show returns to him in the final season, you realize he's this fuck-up who almost made life work and then completely goes back off the rails in stupendous fashion
the waitress scene in season one is kind of eye-rollingly bad, but I like to think we saw it through his drunk vision. the waitress, if anyone else had seen her, wouldn't vaguely resemble the actress they cast
― mh, Saturday, 23 September 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
That's a good way to look at it. Especially considering in the ensuing sex scene he apparently has no problem keeping it up, which is a little unrealistic.
― albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link
smdh
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 September 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link
hmm i think the whole scene where McNulty crashes his car a couple times/gets a bite to eat/has sex was sort of a very effective (and funny!) nutshell encapsulation of his character: a total fuckup, thanks to his own efforts and despite knowing better, and yet he somehow manages to get lucky anyway.
― nomar, Saturday, 23 September 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link
Thinking Season 2 must be through the eyes of Nick Sobotka then.
― pplains, Saturday, 23 September 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link
Favorite bit in Season 5 is Gus watching Carcetti fire Burrell on TV and ad-libbing his internal monologue - "He feared and hated me and I merely wanted him dead."
― louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link
― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Saturday, September 23, 2017 7:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
effective defense against ED tbh
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 24 September 2017 00:40 (six years ago) link
not sure why drunk fuck ups having a lot of sex is so vexing....or am i
― ogmor, Sunday, 24 September 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
Especially considering in the ensuing sex scene he apparently has no problem keeping it up, which is a little unrealistic.
yeah, totally shitfaced people never fuck irl
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 24 September 2017 09:01 (six years ago) link
I wasn't really moaning about the behaviour of an amoral character, because they can be entertaining in the context of a tv series. Just a lazily + badly written one, played by a 3rd rate actor is what doesn't work for me.
― calzino, Sunday, 24 September 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link
https://media.tenor.com/images/361f76ab7e8c3e64872a0621758a733e/tenor.gif
― Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/reg-cathey-%E2%80%98house-of-cards%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98the-wire%E2%80%99-actor-dies-at-59/ar-BBIWauj
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― j., Saturday, 10 February 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link
He came close to getting the Lester role before Peters got it.
― pplains, Saturday, 10 February 2018 04:11 (six years ago) link
heard this is a good show, started watching it, halfway through S1 and it's really great!
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 March 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link
ten years old this week, decent article in guardian
im up to s3 taking my time and its the best tv show of all time into
― things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link
decent article is by an ilx0r
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link
ten years dead, not ten years old
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
rip
― things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link
tbfttm i read it on irishtimes which didnt credit
― things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link
I am curious if this show will impress more than Oz, but I doubt it
― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link
there is much less male nudity in The Wire
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
Oz is more emotionally brutal and has way more male nudity and gay sex. I love both shows.
― sarahell, Saturday, 10 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
Okay I haven’t seen Oz, and now I’m scared to.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
Oz is fine but basically a penis-heavy soap opera. Wire is epic.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
No need to be frightened of a few dongs now andrew
― scotti pruitti (wins), Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
Oh yeah I should probably have clarified that I’m scared because Season 3 of the Wire is the my benchmark for emotional brutality.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
Oz is fine but basically a penis-heavy soap opera.
no, it's kinda the opposite ... the soap opera elements and other "lighter touches" (e.g. musical numbers, theatrical narration) are there to make the socio-political issues at the core of the show easier to watch/engage with
― sarahell, Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link
in terms of emotional brutality, Oz is closer to Walking Dead, where all of the characters experience serious personal trauma at some point in the show, and Walking Dead is a speculative fiction about zombies.
― sarahell, Saturday, 10 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
Oz characters experienced some intensely brutal and degrading stuff but nothing on Oz was nearly as devastating as, say, the ultimate fates of a couple of the younger characters on the Wire.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
nothing on Oz was nearly as devastating as, say, the ultimate fates of a couple of the younger characters on the Wire
it sounds like you just didn't really empathize with the characters in Oz.
― sarahell, Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
I think it's fair to say that I empathized less with the characters on Oz than I did the characters on The Wire. The former characters didn't feel quite as fully rendered to me.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link