Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

i'm sad we didn't get 'gone, like a turkey in the corn, gobble gobble' in a flashback

otm

We got the jerky

was that a real band of jerky btw? they should use Sarah Palmer freaking out in an ad.

brand. brand of jerky.

just got up from reading this thread to see some people walk into our office with a giant box that says "PHILLIP JEFFRIES" on it.

I'm gueesing it's these folk:

https://www.phillipjeffries.com/

I guess once you've been a teapot getting turned into a giant box probably isn't so bad

goddammit
xp

What is the "unofficial version" Cole will know about?

anyone think about the parallels to Lolita in Episode 18? The car following them, the 'doubles', and in Lolita (at least in the film) , she winds up married to a man named Richard. I don't know what any of this means in relation to TP explicitly.

Weirdly, I couldn't think of the overt Lolita refs for my 'Lynch on Lynch' theory, thanks for that.

I'm guessing what actually happened to Jeffries and a lot of other Blue Rose junk isn't the "official FBI version" but those in the club know what's up

all that stuff about the girl possibly being Sara Palmer or whatever seemed really strained, similar to the backwards blinking and airplane window morse code nonsense

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 September 2017 02:31 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there was a lot of inserted weirdness which was in no way accidental (e.g. someone had to be filling in the plane windows, that doesn't just happen), but i do think it all just contributed to a vague feeling of uneasiness rather than being specific clues to be deciphered (iirc i briefly wondered whether that might be the case back in july, but within minutes was all blink truther again).

regardless i think you're otm about the flying frog thing. the "it's sarah palmer!!" theory grew legs despite there being practically no evidence.

Wouldn't it be great if the threads converged back at Twin Peaks (those coordinates) and the spirits of Laura and Cooper returned and somehow the loop closed back to the start of the pilot? The Return indeed.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 8:14 AM (one month ago)

respect knuckles!

folks were right about a few things on this thread - Diane/Jane-y relationship, Naido/real Diane etc.

xpost niiiice!

Maybe technically correct but I could never have guessed the slipped, disjointed, oneiric way in which Lynch achieved it, or the way it would haunt me afterward. I can't stop thinking about the last half hour, I feel like it's communicating a deep truth to me.

the finale communicated the same kind of truth Primer and Jacob's Ladder did to me - you can't change Destiny. maybe a simplification but it hits hard

🖼

hahaha holy shit I forgot about this stunt! Incredible

Not to get all film nerdy but fuggit --- I have the utmost respect and am in awe of filmmakers who do what Lynch does so well: use cinema to poke through to other worlds or interpretations of this world ( much like that cigarette in IE) and be able to shake me up from deep within more often than not. There are only a handful that do that for me and most are long dead.

Has anyone posted yet about how it (well, Odessa) was about the bunny after all? Just a small thing that I doubt is of great significance but quite typical: (includes a photo of a dead bunny, so I'm not gonna embed the tweet)

Jackrabbit Palace too

What is the "unofficial version" Cole will know about?

I was thinking this meant that if Cooper changed history in 1989, Cole will somehow still remember the original?

" the loop closed back to the start of the pilot? The Return indeed."

well it does do that, kind of, but I still feel like what happens after that negates that.

I can't get to a place where I feel comfortable or at peace with the final scene. which is certainly the intention, but has left me feeling somewhat empty.

Jackrabbit Palace too

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:23 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah absolutely, that just seems more obvious whereas this Odessa thing is more like an, uh, Easter egg

Wow, can't believe Lynch's mindblowing curveball in the finale: It was Coop who booked all those Roadhouse shows

TWIN PEAKS FANS: The original score is iconic

DAVID LYNCH: The Roadhouse is a LiveNation venue. Stay tuned for a new song from The Coldplay

— Eric Allen Hatch (@ericallenhatch) August 4, 2017

i'm not as articulate as some of you about Twin Peaks, and i'm pretty sure some of these points have been mentioned. My thought on the two parter is Dale went back into the past to get Laura and save her from her death, but of course that did not work. What we see is 18 is what would have happened if he she had not died, but of course she still has all of the family trauma/abuse. What I'm not clear about is if that if once she screamed it collapsed the timeline. Anyway, i'm sure i'll get corrected because i know this isn't well thought out

but I think in a way Lynch gives us what would've happened had he "saved her" and it's not really ideal either

Nine Inch Nails, Coldplay, they are basically the same thing

this is really fun btw

https://twitter.com/i/moments/892484281188134912

that's great flappy

Stevie D is messaging me, he just finished the episode where Audrey dances at the end

I told him, “Wait for the finale, all mysteries will be REVEALED!”

hehe

lmao

I had completely forgotten about this other, fake "Mrs Tremond" from season 2 and this entire scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=Db9to1uazmU

bah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=Db9to1uazmU

well jsut click it already

Possibly vile of me to post this here and on the Coil thread but I have long been convinced that the Coil and Twin Peaks worlds are strongly related (I mean... at least... consider Trent!)
Anyway, wild to think that Dais Records are unleashing this on the world

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1706649906_10.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIpTEc2XcAAhvkd.jpg:large

Also, all the theories about the role of sex magick in Twin Peaks are confirmed by my brilliant observation that Crowley appeared in Part 16 [I'm killin' it with the useful contributions to this thread right now, sorry! Also, like others have, I want to say thank you for all the great discussion in here ❤️]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJFvuxmUwAASn3e.jpg:large

Can't remember where I read it, but I'm kind of tickled by the notion the three Coopers we see in ep18 are him in Heaven (Dougie in Vegas with wife, kid and jungle gym), Hell (Mr C on fire trapped in the chair in the Lodge) and Purgatory (Good Dale doomed to wander through eternity trying to save various flavours of Laura).

Also Baa Baa Black Sheep - once for the Master (Mr C with the Fireman), once for the Dame (Good Dale with Teapot Jefferies - Bowie has been, of course, referred to as the Dame in the British music press since the 80s) and once for the little boy who lives down the lane (Dougie with Sonny Jim). NB I am not entirely serious about this last one.

I noticed that Mr. C is breathing while he's on fire in the Lodge. Hell is right

I have long been convinced that the Coil and Twin Peaks worlds are strongly related

I don't know that this is entirely "correct", but I like the ideas: http://www.waggish.org/2017/twin-peaks-finale/

I came here to post that!

The reddit post linked in that is great too.

The Twin Peaks universe, and therefore Dale Cooper, completely resets. This explains Coop’s altered character and sudden romantic involvement with Diane; the new Cooper never made the trip to Twin Peaks, allowing for his friendship with Diane to develop over 25 years into something much more serious.

This totally makes sense.

(Not been able to join in the finale fun bcz of circumstances, catching up now, it still has me reeling, and all you ppl itt rock irc)

Did anyone else think the shape of the pylons (by the side of the road where Cooper and Diane drove, 430 miles from....wherever) was supposed to the same shape as the owl symbol / experiment / ace of spades?

Simon, if you're still bouncing around itt, I've finally started listening to your podcast this week. You and your fellow contributors are great and are giving me a lot of new angles to chew over.

In that vein, the Lodgers' discussion of Audrey's captivity early in season 2 got me thinking (half-seriously): what if Judy saw Audrey as another potential Cooper-esque nemesis and engineered a number of obstacles that would compromise her agency (e.g. enforced junkie-dom in One-Eyed Jack's, a bomb that left her in a coma, the banal soul vampirism of John Justice Wheeler), culminating in an illusory domestic purgatory?

curious that all of these detailed interpretations are carefully avoiding the significance of wally brando

o-t-motherfucking-m

when lucy said "we haven't seen agent cooper since before wally was born!"

said to myself, "this is the key that unlocks the mystery"

Laura’s subsequent life appears to have been better than her childhood, judging by what little we learn of her, but there is still a dead body in her living room when Cooper shows up.

hmmmm

the dead body is the average Twin Peaks viewer imo