brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Patel is incompetent as well as being actively awful and unpleasant so i think she is unlikely to get across the line

This used to actually matter but now I'm not sure it does for as long as you have enough people cheerleading to drown out the incompetence/awfulness/unpleasantness.

I'd say Sajid Javid is worth a look, heated stables aside.

I'm mostly just fanficcing, but I wonder if we'll ever see Ruth Davidson's hat in the ring.

ILX in 2017 not suitable for my first response to that

The Tories are probably praying one of their new Scottish MPs falls under a bus, but I think she'll be staying in Scotland for the moment. She'd best be careful though because I think the Tories 'success' in Scotland is a bit of a flash in the pan, she won't always be seen as a winner.

She just said some really unacceptable shit about Travellers, right?

She is taking advantage of her special status to make a lot of "This will be a fvcking disaster FYI" noise, though - she might end up MP for Foyle.

xp - I could only find her claiming an MP who'd said they'd be his first priority if he was Prime Minister was talking about legitimate and local concerns.

re: Brexit, you mean?

Yeah.

always funny when "nationalists" don't know which way up the flag goes.

God, this Country's toxic now. I had this feeling watching God's Own Country last night which is excellent and very much worth seeing. It's about Brexit and gay sex, so, something for everyone.

it won't go down well with the West Riding branch of the Yorkshire Masonic Province. So yay to this movie, basically!

Hopefully seeing that soon.

The biggest thing stopping Patel is the colour of her skin. If she was genuinely popular out there the base might overlook but she isn't. The end. She could end up being chancellor though. I mean Osborne has done it after all.

Raab otoh is a genuine candidate. He had a dry run for leadership last time, and is that hilarious type of creature, namely a working-class Tory - which in these times of hardship it could potentially connect with the poor - the usual messages of working your way/it could be you too. In my darkest hours I just think the lottery bullshit is what most people want to hear. Besides, the Ayn Randist bull crap has never had its time at the very top of British politics and well, why the fuck not, right?

Raab and Crabb will unite the country by first uniting themselves as CRAABB.

Don't know where you've got the idea that Dominic Raab is working class.

Patel just seems a bit thick to me.

aargh, confusing with someone else!!!

Sajid Javed? He's about the only one I can think of.

Yes, must be! All the Ayn Rand stuff as well..

Wrong colour.

Crabb is the proud working classer.

Still, all that Britannia Unchained guff...get the feeling this is the only place the Tories have left to go that is more than just a personality.

xxp very wrong

I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point but really...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/07/theresa-may-european-parliament-brussels-eu

“This is yet another own-goal,” one EU official said of May’s decision.

Elmar Brok MEP, a German member of the European parliament’s Brexit steering committee, said: “The European parliament remains ready to offer flexible solutions. Why make enemies? It’s ridiculous.”

contender for 'most 2017 image'

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/905560500863369216/i8QPFdVA?format=jpg&name=600x314

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/sep/07/how-the-aristocracy-preserved-their-power

If/when Labour draft their manifesto for the next election we can't forget this lot. Lotta revenue here everyone!

whos the guy at the bottom of the right hand panel, soref?

like a young Martin Amis

(xpost) Looks like Delingpole to me

I had somehow missed this story and the comments are an exciting mix of "how dare she judge these people by their appearance" (otm) and "lol she's ugly"

how is the weather on that moral high ground

ok, getting back to my "lol all the old stuff is returning with a vengeance" line, here's stephen bush on the "is corbs a secret catholic?" story

My assumption since his v theologically literate Easter message has been that Corbyn's a Godder: https://t.co/UrqzvaGdvU

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) September 7, 2017

(bush's mum is a CofE vicar) (also tony benn -- who was certainly once JC's lodestar -- was an active xtian)

Corbyn's uncle was a vicar; his wife and ex-wife are both Latina and Catholic.

I think he's secular/agnostic.

he might just like the body of christ, melting on his tongue!

if he had politely snubbed the host, he'd probably have been in trouble on multiple fronts, so probably the right decision was made.

my line in full

A: the grown-ups are all gone, we will not see them again in our lifetimes
B: bcz it's up to us now god help us
C: deeper magic from before the dawn of modernity :|
D: ^^^a fuckton of this, it's everywhere, it's the ground we all walk on and it's gone live again

Derrida's work was very informed by Judaism; that's not the same as practising. Which reminds me of things I think I recall he wrote about Marx and Judaism. Which also reminds me to say fuck a militant anti-faith stance.

Also spacecadet is hugely otm which is why I don't want to play on the "lol Steve Gannon is physically unacceptable" thread

Bannon, phone

I once was sent to 2nd fix some uplights in a church, on a very narrow ledge with a 30ft sheer drop over the edge. I told the site manager I wouldn't work up there without a safety rail. The scaffolders that had to put it up took the piss out of me a few times later that day (what a pussy, scared of fatal drop etc), and I have had a low opinion of them ever since. Over the years I have witnessed scaffolders showing off by playing catch with big metal links at great heights. Or delighting in other peoples fear of heights (or as Steve Wright said, Widths) or generally just being the biggest, loudest, thick wankers on site, which is some achievement. But I am sort of on the side of posh artist woman, even though her education snobbery is very bad. Scaffolders are generally very bad as well ime.

How do you know they are scaffolders?

uniquely amongst the trades, scaffolders tend to have fat arses and tribal tats. I read that they were scaffolders somewhere, dude in the high viz looks more like an electrician. I just fancied slagging off scaffolders tbh!

after todays glut of doom-n-gloom i feel decidedly fed up.
basic summary : this country is totally f*cked.
i realise this is dark, but 5 years ago my finnish wife died, and you know what, the current evilness re EU makes me think that actually ...
ok, not really, just that my life if she were still alive would be seriously uncomfortable right now.
i genuinely hate this parliament/media/country at the moment.

I had somehow missed this story and the comments are an exciting mix of "how dare she judge these people by their appearance" (otm) and "lol she's ugly"

how is the weather on that moral high ground

yeah while i can't for a second condone the tweet and she may well be an unpleasant person, there were responses, including some from the type of left twitter hero you see in yr feed a few times a week, which seemed to trash her based on looks. the general sense of a huge pile-on to one person by many, many people is grim, regardless of who the person is.

mark: a lot of people are utter cunts, navigating that and not drifting into lame misanthropy is a decent way to live I reckon

Which you seem to manage well I meant to add

NV : ta.
the problem is that outside of my workplace (weirdly - my Happy Place) i am now surrounded by so many people who massively subscribe to the media dialogue and never question the sheer undiluted crap they are fed that it becomes incredibly tiresome/depressing.
i.e. Modern England.

yeah exackly and it is knackering

There are so many anti-disabled actions going on right now. The current ATOS campaign against MS sufferers has already caused one attempted suicide in my house. This is why I like gulag talk, cos fuck all these people forever, and any of their mealy mouthed apologists. I am sort of directing this at the "think of the feelings of liberals" bleatings from earlier. Some people don't seem to realise how hard pressed some people are becoming under current conditions. I don't mean this in a self-pitying manner, but in a things are very hard right now, for absolute real, kind of way. And anger is getting quite visceral manner.

God fearing cunt, Ian Cunt Jr. in the news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/07/mp-100k-gifts-brexit-trade-deal/

this guy is so bent + amoral that he bought Shergar's teeth from the IRA!

fuck, Calzino, that's tough. I wish you and yours very well, mate.