Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

Was there much foreshadowing about that room in the Great Northern being special?

James heard the tone coming from behind that door in an earlier episode.

Yeah I don't see Dougie there at all - he's commanding the part of the curtain that had been "locked" last time he was at this point

I can't remember which sound James heard, what was it?

The ambient ringing tone inside the Great Northern that Ben had been mildly obsessed with.

What happened to the hotel? I might be remembering wrong but it looked like part was shut down or being worked on.

we never got an expansive look at it (like, the lobby or anything); only ben's office and the basement.

I thought he used the key to his old room?

James heard the tone coming from behind that door in an earlier episode

I somehow thought James was in the basement, like heading for the boiler room or something, in that scene...?

It was the boiler room but Cooper's key works in the door.

No, he was in his old room!

The room where he almost died

y'all got selwyned.

WTF does that mean? Diane Selwyned?

the sense of dread and loss betty/ diane experienced at the silencio moment is the best analogy i could come up with for what the viewer experienced when the diegetic reality of the nominal tp world he or she was immersed in dissipated and was replaced by one that's basically our own quotidian world, i guess? with md the reponse was sympathetic, i was there feeling what betty was feeling, but here i'm the betty.

James was in the basement, yes. That is also where, inexplicably, room 315 is now. Or at least the door to it. I know it doesn' tmake any sense.

The woodsmen brought Mr C back to life when Ray shot him dead. They turned up and were doing the same at the Sheriff's, but Mr C stayed dead. Does that suggest that they weren't actually bringing Mr C back to life (either time), but looking after BOB? And so it was BOB that caused Mr C to come back to life the first time, but couldn't this time because he got punched with a green glove

I think he would have come back to life had Other Coop not put the ring on him. That's what Ray failed to do the first time.

Imagine the Bob sphere chasing after Ray's car.

bouncing off the hood

Can anyone bring up Lynch's talk about the possibility of further Twin Peaks? I can't find it and I'm beginning to think I read some fabrication.

I sort of loved how short the credit sequence was at the end of 18, it really brought home the sense of contraction to a point

xpost I dunno, man, I think you're the only one I've seen mention that itt. I haven't heard Lynch say anything about another season, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was just done aside from the occasional short film or concert film about a band no one has cared about for decades.

Sherilyn Fenn said lynch said if there's enough interest he'll do it - I do seem to remember eons ago lynch saying something like "I've learned to never say never" but in a way that seemed more like no than yes to me

so no one's got any theories on Audrey/the Arm/"the story of the little girl that lived down the lane"?

I think the car behind Richard/Coop and Carrie/Laura changing lanes and passing them has something to do with "down the lane"

James was in the basement, yes. That is also where, inexplicably, room 315 is now. Or at least the door to it.

Just co-signing this because I saw some upthread confusion over it yesterday I think. One of the shots of coop walking down the dark hallway is the same as the one James walked down while checking the boiler (which was also when he heard the eerie tone)

Was the door actually labeled as room 315? I must've missed that.

I don't recall seeing a number on the door

I don't think it was labeled. But he used the 315 key to open it

or a key that was on the 315 keychain

right. he used the 315 key (which he had apparently kept with him during his entire 25 years in the Lodge?) and it took him back to the Lodge... for some reason.

Okay, so I guess I was apparently correct in my initial assumption that it was simply a matter of the room 315 key inexplicably working in the boiler room door.

Cooper's old hotel room key magically works in the boiler room lock. Ben said they changed all the guest rooms to electronic locks anyway, he's not going into his old room.

it seems clear that once Cooper comes "back" to OG TP universe, he is intuitively aware of a bunch of other previously unidentified portals/connecting Lodge spaces which he proceeds to move between relatively freely.

xp

right. he used the 315 key (which he had apparently kept with him during his entire 25 years in the Lodge?)

jade found it, mailed it back to twin peaks, ben found it, talked to sheriff truman about it at length, who then gave it back to cooper in episode 17

Yeah, but he did keep it while he was in the lodge

xxpost That is in keeping with my growing suspicion that the various expressions of Cooper's uncanny intuition throughout the series are less because he's a highly-competent G-man than because he's always been linked to the Lodge, unmoored from time.

i still have my accidentally stolen econolodge keycard from a trip a couple years ago.

some things just stick with you the rest of your life.

*walks like a combo of dougie/bad coop/good coop toward a locked door behind a 7-11 around the corner*

Wins- thanks.

I expected Lynch would have said something by now. Maybe he's hiding like David Chase. There's no chance a bunch of people haven't asked him about more.
I think one of the Showtime guys said they were scheduled to talk after the finale.

Basically, it's as if Cooper binge-watched the entire series before he ever entered Twin Peaks.

spitballin' re: the key - perhaps also significant that it was in Room 315 in the Great Northern where Cooper first had Lodge dream + is visited by Senor Droolcup, so maybe it's just an extension of the that, the Great Northern and that key have always been a portal to Lodge-space.

xp

The whole key thing feels like the blue box moment essentially, the editing has already started to get dreamlike in the way it moves characters from one setting to another in a less rational way

the hand-wavey thing that cooper did in the lodge was the combination/key to make the curtains open back out into the real world, instead of infinite red curtain rooms like at the end of s2

that makes sense

Someone said "the little girl who lived down the lane" might be the girl from episode 8, who actually did live down a lane.

that reference - and the fact that it connects Audrey's brief string of scenes with the Arm and the larger narrative of the Waiting Room/Lodge spaces - seems like another classic Lynchian loose end, specifically designed to drive you crazy if you puzzle over it too much

The arm saying the line sounds like a taunt, especially the second part "is it?"

it's also a taunt when Audrey says it!

Audrey sounds terrified when she says it

Yeah she doesn't seem mocking at all

Imagine the Bob sphere chasing after Ray's car.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:43 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bouncing off the hood

― mh, Wednesday, September 6, 2017 10:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hanging onto the hood like Shelly

what if Audrey is in a similar state/space as Cooper at the end, wandering between these different iterations of reality, torn between indifferent father figures and forbidden paramores

Is it too soon to ask if this is the best TV show ever produced?