Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

I just remembered how that car turns around in the middle of nowhere and follows them for a second and then pulls ahead again and speeds off.

not sure I feel trolled, but feel taken for a ride.

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 4 September 2017 16:49 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel trolled. mark frost deliberately set up an abundance of puzzles and devices for us to work on and think about, and it turns out there was no point to any of it.

weeks ago i said this show has raised my expectation of tv to the point that nothing else satisfies me. that remains true, but now it's what this show could be that has raised my expectation, not what it's turned out to be.

i imagine there's a full part-18 draft on frost's hard drive that brings many of the clues and subplots to a clear and satisfying conclusion, but was nixed the second lynch had a crazy gut instinct to go on this nihilistic trip. (not that i'm demanding a satisfying conclusion, but parts 1–16 are merely a sour taste in my mouth now.)

nihilistic is OTM AA

which is fucking disappointing. when people perceive you to be unpredictable and it always turns out that way, kinda start being a caricature. The most unpredictable thing for Lynch to do is to deliver some good news...meh

when Laura says she's "trying to keep a clean house" she's talking about addiction (coke) which is devestating

xp to ross: yeah. i mean i don't want to say lynch's art is ~wrong~ (that's never true of art), just that the enormous setup has fallen mostly flat. i was all prepped to buy the 4k blu-ray boxset but i don't think i'll bother now.

Can't believe lynch made a mockery of the little man's famous line "she's filled with answers"

― streeps of range (wins)

Every tv thread eventually gets its own "it's called mad men not happy ladies"

in some ways it's a piss-off that the longest scene between Coop and Laura is driving in car with desolate silence ala Lost Highway. At least they could've played modest mouse it's a long drive with nothing to think about

lmao

Would've been rad if they bumped into Harry Dean Stanton's character from Paris Texas walking along the side of the road or something

it's a dick move that there's no-one by the name of Sarah Palmer at the end of S18. I mean, Christ

it just occurred to me that right at the start the fireman said "remember 430, richard and linda, two birds with one stone" and dale said "i understand". but in the end he apparently didn't understand at all.

i mean, i can't imagine a version of lord of the rings where frodo gets to mount doom and goes "wait, what am i doing with this ring again"

it's a discordian logic, what actually matters here? I just feel mesmerized without logic, i feel like this is chaos personified in media

otm

in the end like the silencio scene - i've felt something, i've been manipulated - that's art

yeah but in a throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks kind of way

"the horse is the white of the eyes!" fuck he might as well have said "guilty feet have got no rhythm" for all it mattered

get a room or two you two

room 253

why? the infinite loop of purgatory hits me hard

its called twin peaks not only child valleys

wtf does that mean?

Richard and Linda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpeNwSAdhbk

https://youtu.be/Xwv9i2Oq9Aw

lol wtf latebloomer

y'all got selwyned.

WTF does that mean? Diane Selwyned?

https://thewebsitez.com/snuuz/2017/08/15/twin-peaks-final-four-episodes-teasersspoilers-enter-at-your-own-risk/

Episode 17

Cole makes a statement/confession (translation from Russian isn’t clear)
Coops doppelganger arrives in Twin Peaks.
Sheriff Truman gets an unexpected call.
Freddie fulfills his destiny.
Laura runs away from James in the past (again, translation isn’t 100% clear)
Pete goes fishing.

Psst

https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-english-pinyin-dictionary.php?define=jiao+dai

dude FTW I said we were getting trolled premere-wise (was on coke) so IN THE end not sure what to think

as in I didn'r want to believe it was all a lark (au revoir simone)

I'm absolutely gutted. AA OTM, as always. The whole mad exhilarating intensity of "gotta light?" seems pretty pointless now.

wtf is wrong with y'all

in the end like the silencio scene - i've felt something, i've been manipulated - that's art

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, September 4, 2017 12:28 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but in a throwing shit at a wall and hoping some of it sticks kind of way

― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Monday, September 4, 2017 12:28 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

y'all didn't deserve this show come on

jed_ you're extraordinarily kind but i've been wrong at least 3/4 of the time! many more consistently otm posters all through these threads.

honestly i don't know what to do with gotta light now. as a standalone piece it's incredible, but in light of it (apparently) going absolutely nowhere i just couldn't recommend it. anticipation is at least half of what made it so enjoyable.

y'all didn't deserve this show come on

it's difficult to argue all the unrealised promises have been fulfilling, regardless of how good it's been as a work of art

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SBNoZjW1TWk/V1ruHDapjEI/AAAAAAABpvw/NQvgxfFx9P8RzhpvHToB_kET2BYrX7r5wCLcB/s1600/tumblr_m4bvlb3HRb1rtgfeuo1_500.gif

^ otm, jesus

sorry i woke up cranky, y'all certainly deserved this show

Nah you were right the first time. Retroactively revoking their Peaks Privileges

Psst

https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-english-pinyin-dictionary.php?define=jiao+dai🕸

Haha love it

it probably doesn't help that i'm coming across so negative. i've loved every episode, every scene, every character, every artistic decision. it's been an absolute joy from start to finish. it's just that (a) there are so many unaddressed clues and unresolved subplots that the show carries an astronomically high blue balls quotient (i don't need a neat bag of closure, but this really does feel like they ditched the original ending and made up part 18 on the spot), and (b) i haven't worked out the point of all this. in time i might watch the whole thing again, with a better sense of what to dig into and what to ignore, but for now i'll wait to see whether far more intelligent people can *cough* make sense of it.

Emily Stephens' review at the AV Club is a good first stab

her reviews have been consistently incredible. i really like that she focused on dale not actually being that good at heroically sorting things out, right down to asking the wrong questions in that last episode.

I just remembered how that car turns around in the middle of nowhere and follows them for a second and then pulls ahead again and speeds off.

There's a very visible "Pass With Care" sign either right before or right after this. In retrospect I think you can read this as "there's a structure in which this is a cop show and one car's following another car, but this isn't actually that structure, this is the structure where different cars on the road / human beings in time sometimes sync up but only temporarily and then the streams decouple from each other"

Cooper's car that goes from the motel to Odessa has Texas plates

"Remember Richard and Linda" -- I guess I think (following Autumn Almanac's "this is the real Cooper of which we've previously seen only fragments" take) that the reason Cooper is asked to "remember Richard and LInda" by the Fireman is because Richard is the "real person" whose dream Cooper kind of is? And who Cooper in some way has the capacity to remember being?

The question is, in the sex scene in the night, is that Richard then? Or is it only Richard in the morning? I think the former. I think he's Richard and Diane is Linda as soon as they "cross", whatever crossing means.

"Richard and Linda" seems like a reference to Richard and Linda Thompson after all.