xxp well if it's an authentic haggis pizza how can you go wrong?
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link
there just doesn't look like there'd be much good eatin' on a gizzard
xp i'm v much about authentic culinary experiences, as u know
― frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link
authentic gizzard pizza aka gizza
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link
bizarro gizzara
Morrison's Gizzard King Pizza
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
i'd accept pizzaro gizzarda, no more no less
― frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
Am sceptical that haggis is really a British food at all tbh:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkx2jK5XMDRFTF9Kg1e1d8PmItvWd1IaCpx28Ztb1WuXqnrG6y2A
PS veggie haggis is very tasty too
― Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link
haggis pakora is also bizarro gazzara-endorsed fusion cuisine, thx for the reminder ward
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
Mark S, your memory is impressive. Gizzards in a tin are to be found in every French supermarket, but I can't in all honesty recommend them. Gizza pizza would be a step even beyond that for me.
― Madchen, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
out of the british-is-blandest pan and into dr. strongo's neuvo cuisine
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
"cooking apples often now quite hard to track down *inside* the UK also imo: the apple is going the way of the rubbery and tasteless mass-grown tomato"
sad! i live in apple country. so many great varieties. and great local baking options.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link
"i'd be interested to know how many ilxors have tried haggis tbh"
i don't think i've ever seen one in real life. the pictures are so frightening in a cronenbergian way but i imagine they taste fine.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link
i voted for short-bread because american and because yum.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
Ah now shortbread, that shouldn't be on here
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
whit
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link
Scottish innit
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link
Orwell was writing at a time when it was ok to describe any part of the British Empire as "English".
if you were a git.
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link
i'm sure someone will be along in a minute to shortbreadsplain that actually it was invented in luxembourg or some shit
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link
nah I already checked Wikipedia or I would have done that already :D
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link
my man
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link
recipe for shortbread was actually included in the advanced knowledge cache aliens gave to the old kingdom egyptians
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
erich von ramekin
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
idk about the mint but boiling new potatoes is the only way to do em so i am with georgie on that much
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link
Charlottes of the Gods
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
Brain's faggots don't taste half as good now as they did when I was a kid, I'm guessing there's less offal in them
Yeah I had a somewhat similar experience, I still like them but something not quite right.
Nothing like when I bought some Findus Crispy Pancakes on a nostalgic whim a few years ago, they were almost inedible (the cheese ones were actually inedible, but the beef ones were gross but I managed to eat them).
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
yeah I made that mistake a while ago, maybe you have to deep fry them
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
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this is my jam
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
bread fucking sauce
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
boughten bread sauce is always terrible -- home-made bread sauce made by me is amazing
(same applies to red cabbage)
(in both cases the secret ingredient is cloves)
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
lol i love the packet bread sauce and every xmas my mum makes a homemade one but always buys two/three packets of bread sauce and gets me to make it for myself. i know normally we're supposed to prefer the homemade thing over the packet but to me the packet bread sauce is what we had when i was a kid - it is the taste of christmas.
dublin prawns obv the winner here tho many things on the list are good. for new potatoes in the english way i'm assuming he means boiled and a bit of butter/parsley/salt? one of the nicest things.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
That moreorless applies to everything in the list, and it's a point he makes in the essay, iirc (haven't read it for about 25 yrs) - the best English food is homemade rather than bought and is found in homes rather than in restaurants. Still largely true in most parts of the country, I'd say - average pub/restaurant/carvery Sunday roast will be disappointing.
― mahb, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link
the sunday roast at the pub thing is a fucking shitshow - i don't get it at all
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link
homemade > restaurant is true in every culture, surely?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
as the thread's unregenerate mint stan i shd step up and note that the english way of new potatoes is with mint not parsley
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
i love parsley, not a huge mint man
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
mint potatoes, for when you just can't do without that 'carb-loading right after a mouthful of polos' feeling
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Postgate
^^^trying to find a piece in the LRB on the Good Food Guide which had some very excellent horrible descriptions but may have misremembered where I read it: wikipedia biography of raymond postgate gives an quick idea of the overall story… the point was that eating out in the 1920s 30s 40s was (unless you were very lucky) just unremittingly terriblem, borderline uneatable, unless you paid a LOT of money (and dicey even then)… now on the whole the worst you get (unless very unlucky) is ordinary, general standards have shifted upwards unimagineably since the 50s and 60s
worth noting: the work to improve practical professional cooking was done from the left in this country (cf also CAMRA, which was at root a commie project)
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link
also his son was oliver postgate of bagpuss fame
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
mint potatoes are bloody awful
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
they are correct and good
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link
new potatoes are actually best eaten cold the next day
― ogmor, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
challops like a fucking firehose itt
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
this is england, where we eat what we want
― ogmor, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
I can see how it's theoretically possible for new potatoes to be nice, but I just associate them with disgusting school dinners/canteen food and undercooked/green/mouldy potatoes so would never choose to eat them if there was any other option available.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
what i'm hearing here is that we need an 'ILX DECIDES THE BEST POTATO' poll
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
too hard, for example
good chips > good roasties
but mediocre roasties are way > than mediocre chips
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
what i'm hearing here is that we need a multi-stage, forensically detailed 'ILX DECIDES THE BEST POTATO' poll
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
yes we can do this
― mark s, Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
it's a feel bad topic for me because even tho potatoes are basically my favourite food and i celebrate them in all forms, as a vegetarian i can't claim full expertise due to necessarily limited experience of roasters
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 August 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link