btw 250 target should make England favourites but its not too much to get. 220 and it could go either way. under 200 I'd fancy W Indies.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
oh yeah this wont be a bowled out for 90 or a 10 wicket win.
I think everything depends on this woakes and ali partnership
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link
It's not nicely poised, England are favourites.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link
not certainties. I think if these 2 add runs england are favourites. Target of 190-200 I'd back West Indies to make a real fist of it.
250 plus England clear faves.
Its all on woakes and ali
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
List of 4th innings victorious run chases at Headingley.
Only 3 times have a team chased more than England's current lead at Headingley; one of those was Bradman's Invincibles; one was Butcher going berserk in a dead rubber against a great Australian team; the last was England scraping over the line with 219/7 in 1982 against Pakistan.
― AndrĂ© Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
We're about to find out. 3 quick wickets and w indies have a chance
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
records are there to be broken! It's going to be exciting either way.
― AndrĂ© Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
I agree. 220 target would still be interesting
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
I think the west indies spinners might be the key here rather than the seamers (unlike this morning where they got it wrong)
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
You think England are going to lose their last three wickets for single figures, do you? When you've got a guy with five test centuries at the crease? Anything is possible, as we all know, but if I were a betting man...
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
yup theyre going with the part time spinner. I think Woakes and Ali would rather face them than Shannon Gabriel and his pace. Very odd
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
Tom - we dont know. we just saw a few quick wickets and anything can happen. Its not looking likely after that last over though
nice 50 from Moeen and a whole day to bowl them out no worries
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
All im saying is England arent clear faves at this very moment. esp when it was effectively 158-7. Games changing since i posted it tho . Windies still in it. another 50 runs and England will be clear faves
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
NV if that happens with ali then i totally agree. but its no gimme it will happen, that's all im saying
England clearly in a better position now than it was when I first posted!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
2 stinking overs by the west indies and lead is 200
after those 2 overs there's no way they are gonna get 3 quick wickets
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
Bishoo on. Moeen Ali out!....off a no ball!!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
how can a spinner bowl a no ball? lol
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
Reviewing an LBW shout now
Not Out.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
All im saying is England arent clear faves at this very moment.
I imagine betting organizations are relieved you don't work for them.
― Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
If the spinner hadnt put his foot 1 mm over the line then it could've been interesting
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
TMS guys saying it might not've been a no ball, they reckon the back of his heel hadn't fully crossed the line even tho it was off the ground
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
SKY thought the same but a close up replay showed it was JUST over. Fair play to the umpire for getting it right after missing so many no balls today!
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
West Indies have been stinking since tea and it looks like it is getting away from them. They need a bit of luck now or something stupid from England.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
They will regret that no ball as Ali scores so quickly
partnership of 81 off about 80 balls making my post look completely wrong now, lol
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
and as i say that woakes edges one but just short
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
Ali reaches fifty
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
Lead is 250 with 3 wkts left still. West Indies really wasted their chance.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
Ali out, caught on the boundary for 84
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
Lead is 275
well this game turned around didn't it.
― Ste, Monday, 28 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/n7Vhue9.png
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
280 isn't impossible but it would take a really really really good effort as others were saying above.
If they hadn't no-balled when Ali was caught behind W indies it wouldve been very different
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
England have declared! W Indies need 322 to win.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
that's just mean trying to finish them off tonight
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Imago you must be pretty chuffed that they have actually declared for once? Usually they would want 350 minimum
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
West Indies never looked threatened in these 6 overs
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
5-0 at close
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
BBC seemed to be of the same view
With Stokes and Malan at the crease, England were cruising in the afternoon session, but three quick wickets for spinner Roston Chase put the match back in balance.Stokes was caught at long-off from the first ball after a drinks break, Malan was bowled two overs later, and Jonny Bairstow followed soon after as he was bowled playing a reverse sweep.That brought Moeen and Woakes together, and they survived until tea, when England were seven wickets down with a lead of 188.At that point the match could have gone either way, but it was England who took control as they added 133 in just 28 overs.Moeen was his typical attacking self, hitting a series of flowing boundaries through the off side in a 117-run partnership.Woakes contributed just 31 to that stand but was the perfect foil for Moeen, and took the upper hand alongside Stuart Broad when Moeen was caught in the deep.Shortly after Woakes became the sixth player to score a half-century in the innings, Root boldly declared, his side having reached their highest ever score without a player hitting a century.
Stokes was caught at long-off from the first ball after a drinks break, Malan was bowled two overs later, and Jonny Bairstow followed soon after as he was bowled playing a reverse sweep.
That brought Moeen and Woakes together, and they survived until tea, when England were seven wickets down with a lead of 188.
At that point the match could have gone either way, but it was England who took control as they added 133 in just 28 overs.
Moeen was his typical attacking self, hitting a series of flowing boundaries through the off side in a 117-run partnership.
Woakes contributed just 31 to that stand but was the perfect foil for Moeen, and took the upper hand alongside Stuart Broad when Moeen was caught in the deep.
Shortly after Woakes became the sixth player to score a half-century in the innings, Root boldly declared, his side having reached their highest ever score without a player hitting a century.
Only thing missing from that report is the line "west indies bowling after tea was a load of shite"
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
watched the 30 minutes before and hour after tea in a salisbury pub (home now)
it was a curious mixture of elation at hero moeen's strokeplay and utter, crushing despair at the quite staggeringly dreadful cricket from the windies
― imago, Monday, 28 August 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
Moeen was fantastic. I really did think W Indies had a great chance of winning if they got him out quickly and only had to chase 200 or so, but they were truly awful in the last session. England almost handed it to them on a plate with stupid shots by Stokes/Bairstow but what the hell were they doing after tea? 1st over after tea with England on the ropes and they give Brathwaite a bowl???
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
The seamers wre knackered and Bishoo wasnt bowled. as soon as he came on he had moeen out as it may not have been a no ball after all (the argument there will go on). West Indies wouldve been confident of getting 200 or so. I cant see them scoring 317 tomorrow they must be so deflated. Plus Brathwaite and Hope need to repeat their centuries to do it. Will be a lot harder on a 5th day pitch that is turning.
Mind you, it's a pitch once you get in you don't look like getting out unless you do something stupid. I dont see them crumbling to a 150 run defeat.
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Monday, 28 August 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
the moment i knew they'd lost the plot was when they reviewed an lbw against ali that i could tell from first view on tv was missing leg by maybe six inches
― imago, Monday, 28 August 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
actually opening with brathwaite after tea was before that haha
― imago, Monday, 28 August 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
also, with the caught behind no ball, ali would have heard the shout of no-ball before he played the shot i think?