There is definitely a problem with one email getting way more attention then a press conference, op-ed, etc. The party might need to quality control messaging with an awareness of how things get funneled through the "democrats bad" (but from the left) echo chamber/cottage industry.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:28 (eight years ago)
The party might need to quality control messaging with an awareness of how things get funneled through the "democrats bad" (but from the left) echo chamber/cottage industry at all, ever
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)
but yeah the problem is with the critics, riiiiiight
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)
I don't think it's arguable that there are certain factions on the left who will jump on any clumsy old thing Dem organizations do as examples of the party's larger bad faith
that being said yes duh the Dems have organizational and messaging problems, they just got sonned in a catastrophic election beef that p much no one saw coming, disorganized in-fighting is what happens to parties after that kind of loss.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)
Maybe you really disliked that Tom Perez op-ed idk but yeah while I do have problems with Dem messaging sometimes the fact that people like Adam Johnson and Eve Peyser are read/shared is way more objectionable.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:44 (eight years ago)
Xpost
they have no leader, there are internal conflicts about messaging and goals, strategies are uncoordinated, and party is worried about maintaining and strengthening it's financial and organizational assets
in the face of all that it's p remarkable how well the congressional caucuses have hung together, and how well Dems are performing in special elections
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)
iirc "America is already great" and the like indicated that they had pre-election messaging issues as well
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)
how did Eve Peyser hurt you NP
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)
she works for VICE she can fuck right off imo
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)
talk about ethically compromised organizations...
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)
oh shit are Vice fielding candidates now?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)
I have no love for Vice but that's a dumb fucking comparison and you know it
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:49 (eight years ago)
well, that's why I don't like her.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
maybe NP has different issues idk
She's bad.
Last chance Dems have to redeem themselves is to pull a Merrick Garland on Neil Gorsuch— eve ⚔️ peyser (@evepeyser) February 1, 2017
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
I do not understand that tweet
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:53 (eight years ago)
I see no problem with the concept of obstructing the hell out of Trump's appointments tbh, even the "competent" ones. especially them, actually
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)
a) they didb) that tweet recommends a course of action (blocking Gorsuch from ever coming up for a vote on the floor) that was literally not possible
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)
peyser is a really terrible writer and thinker afaict
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)
ie that tweet just demonstrates a shitty understanding of how the Senate works
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)
Exactly and people read her believing it is possible but the bad Dems just chose not to because they are bad.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)
xps apparently the dems redeemed themselves, then
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)
I'm def not seeing the kind of full throated blanket opposition I'd prefer. I've seen a lot of this "let's wait for details" approach now and seem to recall a lot of it back during the appointments. Fuck that. There's no good version of, for instance, authorizing a Trump military adventure.
The American public deserves more details from POTUS on Afghanistan. Congress should ask for the specifics and then debate & vote on an AUMF— Senator Tim Kaine (@timkaine) August 22, 2017
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:05 (eight years ago)
jail trump. impeach garland
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)
universal basic income, medicare for all, tuition-free public universities, weed legal over the age of 21
the "statue" stuff, in this next step, could bite non-Confederate Dems in the ass
http://gothamist.com/2017/08/22/not_so_columbus_circle.php
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:09 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb7BIaaxGAU
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)
love 2 get my history from statues
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)
haha whoops I meant this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSlX36QP_po
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)
I, for one, think we should remove any and all statues of Artie Bucco and replace them with statues of Charmaine Bucco
― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:28 (eight years ago)
Let's put up some statues of osso buco.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)
Paul Ryan sonned by a nun
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57140/paul-ryan-nun-town-hall/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)
racine is a rough crowd for janesville frauds
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:40 (eight years ago)
that doesn't sound particularly sonn-y to me - she asked a pointed question that he promptly and ably skated away from as he has a million times before
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:42 (eight years ago)
I mean this is why the GOP loves him as a "policy wonk" etc because he acts like he is actually answering those questions with specific policy solutions grounded in conservative principles, he doesn't get flustered at all.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)
mnuchin tax: 75% above $5 million
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:47 (eight years ago)
Here's a 2005 story about Democratic Party fundraising letters of the past, when they also had contempt for everyone @andsat pic.twitter.com/mrrLFvNDiH— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 22, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:59 (eight years ago)
"They used a font that looked like handwriting" is a good reason not to vote dem
― not not not not yr academy (stevie), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 09:00 (eight years ago)
GOP contracts to have all their envelopes hand-addressed by Sri Lankan children iirc
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:09 (eight years ago)
"But their snail mails..."
― not not not not yr academy (stevie), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:14 (eight years ago)
both sides are blase so promote republicans (or at least don't cheer for the democrats)
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:37 (eight years ago)
tick.jpg xp
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:02 (eight years ago)
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2017/08/the-voters-are-economically-insecure.html
― Tarly Noise (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:49 (eight years ago)
stevie you are the monarch of missed points
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:02 (eight years ago)
and you are the guy who shares dennis perrin tweets
― not not not not yr academy (stevie), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:14 (eight years ago)
as part of whatever plea bargain 3Ks makes with mueller, pence and gorsuch should have to resign, too
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:30 (eight years ago)
Go on?
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)
pres. paul ryan
http://i.imgur.com/1wlDoVL.png
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)
xxp and everyone should get a pony in this fantasy scenario
― louie mensch (milo z), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:32 (eight years ago)