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There is definitely a problem with one email getting way more attention then a press conference, op-ed, etc. The party might need to quality control messaging with an awareness of how things get funneled through the "democrats bad" (but from the left) echo chamber/cottage industry.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:28 (eight years ago)

The party might need to quality control messaging with an awareness of how things get funneled through the "democrats bad" (but from the left) echo chamber/cottage industry at all, ever

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)

but yeah the problem is with the critics, riiiiiight

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

I don't think it's arguable that there are certain factions on the left who will jump on any clumsy old thing Dem organizations do as examples of the party's larger bad faith

that being said yes duh the Dems have organizational and messaging problems, they just got sonned in a catastrophic election beef that p much no one saw coming, disorganized in-fighting is what happens to parties after that kind of loss.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)

Maybe you really disliked that Tom Perez op-ed idk but yeah while I do have problems with Dem messaging sometimes the fact that people like Adam Johnson and Eve Peyser are read/shared is way more objectionable.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:44 (eight years ago)

Xpost

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:44 (eight years ago)

they have no leader, there are internal conflicts about messaging and goals, strategies are uncoordinated, and party is worried about maintaining and strengthening it's financial and organizational assets

in the face of all that it's p remarkable how well the congressional caucuses have hung together, and how well Dems are performing in special elections

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)

iirc "America is already great" and the like indicated that they had pre-election messaging issues as well

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:45 (eight years ago)

how did Eve Peyser hurt you NP

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)

she works for VICE she can fuck right off imo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)

talk about ethically compromised organizations...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)

oh shit are Vice fielding candidates now?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:48 (eight years ago)

I have no love for Vice but that's a dumb fucking comparison and you know it

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:49 (eight years ago)

well, that's why I don't like her.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)

maybe NP has different issues idk

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)

She's bad.

Last chance Dems have to redeem themselves is to pull a Merrick Garland on Neil Gorsuch

— eve ⚔️ peyser (@evepeyser) February 1, 2017

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)

I do not understand that tweet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:53 (eight years ago)

I see no problem with the concept of obstructing the hell out of Trump's appointments tbh, even the "competent" ones. especially them, actually

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)

a) they did
b) that tweet recommends a course of action (blocking Gorsuch from ever coming up for a vote on the floor) that was literally not possible

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)

peyser is a really terrible writer and thinker afaict

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)

ie that tweet just demonstrates a shitty understanding of how the Senate works

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)

Exactly and people read her believing it is possible but the bad Dems just chose not to because they are bad.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)

xps apparently the dems redeemed themselves, then

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:57 (eight years ago)

I'm def not seeing the kind of full throated blanket opposition I'd prefer. I've seen a lot of this "let's wait for details" approach now and seem to recall a lot of it back during the appointments. Fuck that. There's no good version of, for instance, authorizing a Trump military adventure.

The American public deserves more details from POTUS on Afghanistan. Congress should ask for the specifics and then debate & vote on an AUMF

— Senator Tim Kaine (@timkaine) August 22, 2017

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:05 (eight years ago)

jail trump. impeach garland

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)

universal basic income, medicare for all, tuition-free public universities, weed legal over the age of 21

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)

the "statue" stuff, in this next step, could bite non-Confederate Dems in the ass

http://gothamist.com/2017/08/22/not_so_columbus_circle.php

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:09 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb7BIaaxGAU

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)

love 2 get my history from statues

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

haha whoops I meant this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSlX36QP_po

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

I, for one, think we should remove any and all statues of Artie Bucco and replace them with statues of Charmaine Bucco

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:28 (eight years ago)

Let's put up some statues of osso buco.

Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)

Paul Ryan sonned by a nun

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a57140/paul-ryan-nun-town-hall/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)

racine is a rough crowd for janesville frauds

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:40 (eight years ago)

that doesn't sound particularly sonn-y to me - she asked a pointed question that he promptly and ably skated away from as he has a million times before

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:42 (eight years ago)

I mean this is why the GOP loves him as a "policy wonk" etc because he acts like he is actually answering those questions with specific policy solutions grounded in conservative principles, he doesn't get flustered at all.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)

mnuchin tax: 75% above $5 million

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:47 (eight years ago)

Here's a 2005 story about Democratic Party fundraising letters of the past, when they also had contempt for everyone @andsat pic.twitter.com/mrrLFvNDiH

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 22, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:59 (eight years ago)

"They used a font that looked like handwriting" is a good reason not to vote dem

not not not not yr academy (stevie), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 09:00 (eight years ago)

GOP contracts to have all their envelopes hand-addressed by Sri Lankan children iirc

Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:09 (eight years ago)

"But their snail mails..."

not not not not yr academy (stevie), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:14 (eight years ago)

both sides are blase so promote republicans (or at least don't cheer for the democrats)

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:37 (eight years ago)

tick.jpg xp

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:02 (eight years ago)

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2017/08/the-voters-are-economically-insecure.html

Tarly Noise (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 August 2017 13:49 (eight years ago)

stevie you are the monarch of missed points

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:02 (eight years ago)

and you are the guy who shares dennis perrin tweets

not not not not yr academy (stevie), Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:14 (eight years ago)

as part of whatever plea bargain 3Ks makes with mueller, pence and gorsuch should have to resign, too

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:30 (eight years ago)

Go on?

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)

pres. paul ryan

http://i.imgur.com/1wlDoVL.png

Karl Malone, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)

xxp and everyone should get a pony in this fantasy scenario

louie mensch (milo z), Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:32 (eight years ago)


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