Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

jeffries' room is one of the best set pieces in the entire series. so beautiful and oblique

what things haven't been 'resolved' yet? glass box and whoever is behind it; that's the only really mysterious important point I can think of right now.

Abandoned On The Air, my dvd-r has a bad stutter issue. Ep 1 is sort of OK? Betty is a Lucy/Candy style naif, although pushed really far into maybe actual mental illness. Interestingly, where Betty is from 'the birds sing a pretty song and there's always music in the air'. Bud is Albert, and softens noticeably in the same way Albert does by his return in TP S2. Gochktch is Gordon Cole, in that his vocal and physical tics can only be interpreted by the beautiful Ruth. Shorty is an immortal giant, Blinky sees extra dimensions and McGonigle appears to be a trans-dimensional being. Arguably Lester Guy transcends Dick Tremayne, but superficially they're the same.

It feels really slight, but I think there might be something to it. I might go back to it, or wait because apparently Mark Frost wants it on the blu-ray of The Return.

oh another thing, maybe someone already mentioned this, but I thought it was interesting that Albert and Gordon seemed to only just remember the encounter with Jeffries from FWWM a few episodes ago, which I guess could be a retcon to address why this was never mentioned in the series originally, but also seems to indicate that this entire episode was hidden from their (and probably Cooper's) memories by the Lodge, or something.

jeffries' room is one of the best set pieces in the entire series. so beautiful and oblique

what things haven't been 'resolved' yet? glass box and whoever is behind it; that's the only really mysterious important point I can think of right now.

Who's Judy, what's going on with Sarah, what happened with Diane & Mr C/what's she up to, how does Naido figure in, what did Laura whisper in cooper's ear (this is a big one I think), what does the fourth diary page say. I think there's a big one I'm forgetting.

feel like the entire thing is mysteries.

how's annie

Where's Donna

WHAT HAPPENED TA JOSIEEE

What'll happen w/ Dougie's family? What's up with Audrey? Who/where is Billy? What's the green glove for? Shelly and her drug dealer boyfriend, when are they gonna get Eddie Vedder over with, just off the top of my head...

the hum at the great northern

All 3 of the Fireman's clues to Cooper in the first scene

They're not going to resolve any of this.

They're definitely going to resolve some of this.

What's the deal with Ed's hairdo? is the big one that needs addressed.

Ed's a big richard Spencer fan

I remembered the other big one: the identity of not-Jeffries. I guess I can see why people are saying Albert, because there are so few candidates among characters we know, he's had dealings with Jeffries & acted shifty at points this season, is the only blue rose agent who hasn't been taken to the lodge (he claims!) - but I don't buy it. Albert is a naysayer and hatchet man in the fight against violence and will be with Constance, not BOB.

The really obvious answer is the other Philip aka MIKE, as a known antagonist of mr c who has been "with BOB" before. Feels a little too neat tho so who the fuck knows. If it turns out to be windom fucking earle I'll kick my tv in lol

until further notice i assume that earle's soul was utterly annihilated by the lodge

Even given further notice I'll choose to believe that

I still wonder if MIKE is walking around with a new host (the person who made the phone call), and Philip Gerard is simply trapped in the Lodge, like Leland.

That's one of the original show mysteries that I'd still like Lynch to untangle. BOB is shown as this discrete entity who possesses or rides other discrete entities, so I have to wonder if we've ever actually seen MIKE (as opposed to just his usual host).

I'm still curious why Cole had that vision of Laura crying a few episodes ago

What are the other lingering plot threads we might get resolved from the original series? Ed and Norma getting back together was pretty great.

Contemporary mysteries: Who is Richard's dad (did he just get sucker-punched by his dad?), is Ray in the lodge since he died wearing the ring, who the hell is Judy

I wonder if Chris Isaak will turn up at any point.

Which of the Roadhouse denizens is the adult version of Little Nicky? When will John Justice Wheeler swoop in to rescue Audrey from her domestic nightmare? Who will win this year's Miss Twin Peaks competition?

i'm assuming Richard's dad is Evil Cooper yeah

I had never thought of Albert as being "bad" or whatever, but that would explain why Gordon had that vision right before he opened the door for Albert

Who will win this year's Miss Twin Peaks competition?

Given that she's been in town for five minutes, the smart money is on Naido

Albert's confession to Gordon in episode 4 about helping Jeffries and getting a contact in Columbia killed seems like it would be a huge deal in the real FBI, but Gordon moved on pretty quickly to the Blue Rose stuff.

C'mon, Albert's not evil, jeez

I wonder if Chris Isaak will turn up at any point.

I don't think we'll see any surprise cameos from ppl not on the cast list. It is kinda funny that the disappearances of Cooper & Jeffries are a huge deal in this world, but Desmond also disappeared and nobody gives a shit

Richard Horne's parentage, paternal and maternal, has never been a mystery

yeah it is weird that Desmond is persona non grata

It's especially weird inasmuch as the essay I alluded to yesterday made a convincing case that Desmond was basically a 'dream' analogue of Cooper (as it was established in the original series that Cooper had actually been the lead in the Teresa Banks investigation). Lynch could have chosen to leave him unmentioned in The Return (which would have lent credence to that theory) but by bringing him up and not addressing his disappearance as a mystery in need of solving...I'm not sure what the angle is. Unless Desmond winds up being yet another tea kettle existing in an extranormal space.

my prediction is that some mysteries will be solved and others will not

Agree

xp I like to think frost threw in the Desmond mention just to fuck with that dream theory

I want to know more about Jeffries's journey. One would think he'd find his current status distressing but he seems pretty chill about being a giant metal tank stuck inside the Black Lodge.

He's a more chill,chrome caterpillar from alice in wonderland.

i'm psyched that there is now one degree of separation between two of my favorite aesthetic worlds, Twin Peaks and Shriekback (Veils leader is Barry Andrews' son and though I didn't really like their song, I noted it was titled 'Axolotl' which is a very fucking Shriekback song title)

i liked the veils song but once again regretted having the captions on, allowing me to see the song's terrible lyrics (same thing happened with nine inch nails)

are Shriekback really into Cortazar or something

feel certain that david bowie's transfiguration into a percolator is a deep and important callback to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSxNP-1VpjE

are you saying that jeffries is a fish now

I thought all Britishes turned into teakettles when they died

are Shriekback really into Cortazar or something

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:32 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

amphibians, aquatic lifeforms, species with bizarre ontogenies, all v shriekback themes

The ring makes people disappear, and Desmond was one of them, beyond that I don't think it matters much where he went, he was just an off-brand Dale Cooper.

I want to know more about Jeffries's journey. One would think he'd find his current status distressing but he seems pretty chill about being a giant metal tank stuck inside the Black Lodge.

― Gravy Zebra (Old Lunch), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 12:11 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"The Whisperer in Darkness" tells us that things aren't always what they seem in such cases

The ring makes people disappear, and Desmond was one of them, beyond that I don't think it matters much where he went, he was just an off-brand Dale Cooper.

It's suggested, but not confirmed, that Jeffries found the ring before disappearing; Cooper definitely didn't, and none of the other people who wore the ring - Theresa, Laura, MIKE, Annie, lol Nixon - disappeared as a result.

I agree with the wider point about it not mattering - nobody cares cause lynch & frost don't care - but I still find it funny, as I do the fact that Norma doesn't care about her sister being kidnapped

c'mon last episode just established that Norma doesn't have any family lol

Norma has a wonderful family

You know, Ed and Shelly and Becky and Heidi and Toad and the guy who yelled out "hot DAMN this pie is good" in the original series. Yep, a wonderful family. That's what's important to Norma: *extremely vin diesel voice* family

I'd love a scene of Norma at Miriam's hospital bedside tearfully declaring "you're like the sister I never had"