the alt-right

It's a very different media company than it was

I'd totally buy a Nazi tears 12 pack

man we need some progressive brewery to get on this ASAP

It's a very different media company than it was

The thing about the rebranding of Vice is a) it was less than 10 years ago, b) they wouldn't have had the luxury of doing it had they not ridden Gavin's outlook into a giant pile of VC money, and c) there are more than 2 media companies out there, meaning I can get information from sources where it isn't a confirmed fact that one of the cofounders is now giving talks promoting white supremacy.

If Vice is still around 50 years from now fighting the good fight, I may give them another chance as I lay in my bed in the nursing home.

Cantwell: "If I was a violent guy, you would have heard about it by now"

30 seconds earlier...

"I've been engaged in violence, I have"

they made their money on a platform of cloaking bigotry in hipster disguise and actual racism in the disguise of ironic racism. they continue to profit on the purported "edginess" of their early days. those early mags which were piled up for free strategically in certain neighborhoods in L.A., you start to wonder if Gavin wasn't trying to insert racist ideology at a just-above-subconscious level. you start to wonder if it worked on particularly impressionable types.

lmao that gavin is "catholic" now

wonder if Gavin wasn't trying to insert racist ideology at a just-above-subconscious level. you start to wonder if it worked on particularly impressionable types.

^^ive enjoyed some of Vice's work since Gavin left but nomar def otm here.

If Vice is still around 50 years from now fighting the good fight, I may give them another chance as I lay in my bed in the nursing home.

space nursing home. it'll be a space nursing home

local angle on this crap: an experienced litigator turns out to be head of racist metal label

http://www.citypages.com/music/one-minneapolis-lawyers-neo-nazi-record-label-and-the-fight-to-shut-it-down/440595353

(checking his firm's website, his presence has already been removed hmmm)

xp: damn skippy it will be a space nursing home

hey who'da thunk it

Netanyahu's son says Black Lives Matter are 'thugs,' worse than Neo-Nazis https://t.co/aVLUQ5W35z

— (((YousefMunayyer))) (@YousefMunayyer) August 16, 2017

Nazis are in the past week

i can just see that photo getting turned into a Facebook meme for assholes with that quote sitting there in the empty space

hahahhaahhaha pic.twitter.com/QAWxUZm02l

— Will 🐋 Menaker (@willmenaker) August 16, 2017

I mentioned the nazi rally death to the israeli doctor giving me a weed recommendation on saturday (lol california) and the motherfucker's response is 'well they shouldnt be in the street.'

DID YOU HEAR WHAT I JUST FUCKING SAID???

yeah what kind of weed did he recommend?

Prussian Blue

xxp AAAAARGH

they had a fucking permit!

I've seen unbelievable hostility from otherwise normal people re: protestors in street for at least 20 years now, bums me out so hard

where do republicans end and nazis begin?

― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the buffet line at a Presbyterian church

― Neanderthal, Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still laughing at this

"blocking traffic" is the right wing coded talking point that has most successfully penetrated my liberal bubble

The VICE video that everyone is linking to really is worth the time to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg

Also disappointed at leftists going after the ACLU for defending Nazis right to march cuz duh this is what the ACLU has always done and they are correct "hate speech" short of specific incitement to violence is 100% legal

― Οὖτις, Sunday, 13 August 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL this garbage.

This is good on the free speech junkies.

Point: genocide is good we should do it
Counterpoint: this very format makes genocide a conceivable policy option, which is fascists goal pic.twitter.com/gUfWQJkwtB

— Joseph (@JosephKay76) August 16, 2017

maybe blame the C'ville police for standing back and letting chaos reign

(guilty free speech junkie here.)

although this sort of thing doesn't come up much in NY demonstrations because we have RELATIVELY SANE GUN LAWS

I will not be moved on this point. They had a right to march and chant their garbage. They did not have a right to threaten, assault and murder people, and the city/cops/permitting agencies were wrong not to foresee and deal with them as a threat to public safety, which they are.

xp

it's almost like the laws on this are different here than in the UK

(outic otm)

also it is so bizarre to see people on the left wanting to have the gov't to take a heavier hand on limiting free speech, cuz historically it's not right-wing speech that the gov't has been eager to limit. COINTELPRO didn't target the KKK.

xp

Shakey and I being in agreement is incontrovertible proof of truth

Yeah my thing is I don't want to debate them, just want to see them at the end of a rope.

and I don't want to move you LOL, just scanned through and saw your turd of a post.

the_donald watch:

FLASHBACK: Before the "Trump-Russia" conspiracy, the DNC e-mails were widely reported as a LEAK and NOT a hack!!!VERY FAKE NEWS (archive.is)

Hope Hicks, 28, to be named new White House communications director. SHES 28! (dailymail.co.uk)

My daughter was banned from Facebook today for saying "What if I told you that you can support the president and not be a Nazi?" (self.The_Donald)

The reason "NAZIS" are being thrown around in every sentence is this...Even rag news "Salon" is reporting the DNC hack was actually a leak. 7 months of work is crashing down. Push this. (twitter.com)

BREAKING: After being caught in a lie, the FBI has decided to reopen our case into the secret Clinton-Lynch meeting.IMPORTANT (twitter.com)

WHAT JUST HAPPENED: Report is published PROVING DNC emails were LEAKED from somebody on the inside 5 days before Seth Rich was murdered. Even lefty magazines The Nation and Salon are writing articles. Left fires "white supremacist" nuke at Trump - and misses. They're desperate now. (self.The_Donald)

If only the police - whose large section sympathise with these Nazis and kill black people - would only stop these Nazis.

Just like your boy Stalin

haha

fire em and hire more black police

not gonna watch the vice thing. i've seen photos. i've seen videos. i dont want to support yet another group who has made a career profiting off the imagery of violent extremism.

imo boycott the nazi rallies. nobody shows up but news reporters. let them duke it out.

just been thinking of all the 100k+ anti-war demonstrations the media completely slept on during the Iraq war. they choose to cover things for certain reasons, mostly to stoke fear. people have accepted the lie that there isn't an anti-war left. now 350 assholes are proof that half the country wants to kill us.

shut the fuck up

my current "friends of friends" count is one dead, two injured by Nazis

"friends of friends of friends" is one dead, many injured by Nazis

just shut up

fire em and hire more black police

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 August 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's easier said than done. xps

They did not have a right to threaten

I've asked this rhetorically a few times now, and maybe one of you has the constitutional law backing to help me out, but how is an armed, angry mob whose stated goals and extensive history are violent and intimidating, not innately a public safety threat? Because the right to hate speech is one thing, but an actually seditious and dangerous hate group, with a stated platform of death and destruction or at least close associations with the same, why is that not as dangerous as someone walking down the street juggling chainsaws, let alone shouting fire in a crowded theatre?

Like, if they were marching through Virginia shouting "Jews should be shot," is that covered by the 1st amendment? Because that's what you stand for if you fly a Nazi flag.

I believe it would be covered, you have to single out a person and call to action.

good overview here:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/8/16/16153248/free-speech-nazi-first-amendment-democracy-hate-speech

i thought the law was that anyone can assemble and say anything so long as it isn't directly threatening to a person. admittedly using charged symbols is threatening but "X should be shot" is different than "we will shoot X".

I'll have to spend some time with that Vox article. I just don't understand how innately violent groups with a history of violence, armed, can show up and inevitably provoke violence. If it happens everywhere they go, again and again, eventually don't you have to stop permitting it? Or force people to stand in one cordoned off place and shout from there?

allowed: "all people with long hair should die"

not allowed: "let's kill that guy with the long hair, the one over there"

Shakey OTM. the insane & racist double standard of the cops not being aggressive & shooting rubber bullets at the neo-Nazis was disgusting. if 100s of black people marched ANYWHERE with torches, they would be shot, gassed, assaulted, etc. the police are responsible for allowing this to get out of hand. the KKK marched in Skokie, IL and they still have a right to march today.

Perfect illustration of this here in Baltimore 2 years ago: in Sandtown-Winchester, near where Freddie Gray was arrested, protestors (majority black) breaking curfew were gassed, beaten, and arrested. on the same night in Hampden, a candle-light vigil was allowed to continue half an hour past curfew, with the cops very politely asking the mostly white residents to go home. just abhorrent and plain as day.