iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

tbh i have no time for that (teaching jerks a lesson)

IMO all of this is a side-effect of Eternal September

this wasn't facebook, but the propensity for people to passionately adopt a stance despite having read one source of outrage reminded me of the worst clusterfucks: http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html

(short version: a YA novel is lambasted by a single blogger who wrote a 9000 (!) word summary/takedown claiming it's horrible and racist, causing a flurry of bad reviews and complaints by people who had not read the book)

the blog rant is one of the most incoherent things I've skimmed

if we have any sort of book culture/YA fiction thread, it might be worth posting there

I posted in the "free speech and creepy liberalism" thread.

toxic drama of YA twitter is OTM
holy crap

for reference, here's where the discussion starts on the other thread:
Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

Shocked and saddened master frodo

I do think people often let social media condition them into thinking they have to adopt an opinion on every hot button topic ("inaction is still an action!"), and that while ignorant people speaking on things they learned five minutes ago is hardly new, that many people were more content just letting things go by without comment like ten years ago.

that and the more link-driven format of today's social media is to blame too. I remember when FB still supported link embeds but didn't advertise it, so most people didn't do it because they didn't know how.

people gotta chime in

part of me has been tempted to create some hoax to get thousands of people outraged and somehow convince them the only way to fight the outrage is to funnel money to this Kickstarter that secretly goes to me under a pseudonym

but I'm lazy and dumb so I decided not to

Part of me wants to stop making creative work other people can see

Oh wait: done

i watched this because a pal of mine did the interviewing and this guy will seriously make you want to banish facebook from your life forever. i mean, for a minute he will. kinda drove me bonkers. i'd never heard of him. but he scared me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_SpOdacVY&t=2135s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_SpOdacVY&t=67s

uh never mind. those aren't showing up? whatever.

or people who post things like "you really fucked up this time. i don't know if i can forgive you after last night. pray for me, friends." and then wait for people to ask about what went wrong

OMG I used to have a few people on my feed that'd pull that shit, but if you dared to ask what the issue was, they'd say 'oh i dont really want to talk about it here' or 'its private'. FFS, you just bleated about it on FB!

OR, no one replies at all because frankly we're all sick of their shit and then they have a sook that no one gives a shit about them.

and just like that! the facebook friend most likely to post in the manner described above has posted a link to sarahah
:( people

Zuckerberg is 4 days late, can't say "Trump" or mention Facebook's role in targeting/amplifying hate. He can't run if he's this compromised pic.twitter.com/vGHG08Y3yJ

— Nitasha Tiku (@nitashatiku) August 16, 2017

run? zuck for what?

1500m world champion

LL, are you not aware of the speculation on why Zuckerberg has been doing this weird cross-country tour to small town america? surely he's running for president

not sure I buy that argument, but I would guess it has crossed his mind

he'd be better off starting his own reality show

that's the route to president, I guess

mid-20s to early 30s, most of the abusive comments reported tho came from people in mid-20s

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LL, are you not aware of the speculation on why Zuckerberg has been doing this weird cross-country tour to small town america? surely he's running for president
no this is the first i've heard of his weird cross country tour. now i know!

It's not a "weird" tour. When I was young every summer my family would drive all over the country, trying to hit as many states as possible. Then again I did grow up to become President.

you didn't do so as a public figure! dude has 95 million facebook 'followers'

if I post a little bloggy-style thing on facebook with my road trip through the american west it's not nearly as performative

the bad thing is I had to search for Zuck's fb profile to get that number and figured out I have one friend in common with him

and hilariously, it's not the one who used to work at fb

I keep feeling like social media is bad for my anxiety cos i measure my feelings against other people's when things happen and i always feel mine is wrong

Largely cos i am always detached and then i cry later at a kids movie

the less close social interaction (dating or committed relationship, living in a home or apartment with other people) I have, the more likely I am to tear up at a kids movie

I think it's normal, you have to have some base level of social interaction or third-party, even fictional, situations will surface that emotional capital you're not spending

Yeah that's true. Living alone has increased that - i still get out a lot but i only talk to invisible co-workers most of my day

It's not a "weird" tour.

http://i.imgur.com/ABZS4pL.png

c'mon Karl everyone finds that truck stop entertaining

and whom amongst us has not asked a friendly trucker for a truck ride and some time sitting in the cab of their truck, as we pose for pictures

zuck is the worst

i would probably have a lot more facebook followers if i interviewed several people in every town i visited

do you suppose he's a big tipper or

I feel like he thinks this tipping problem is something he can help solve with tech

help solve disrupt

Haha it would be amazing if he

Argh zing

It would be amazing if he was travelling all over the country, performatively not tipping people.

Oh I thought zuck had disrupted yr post lol

I'm fighting back

if I post a little bloggy-style thing on facebook with my road trip through the american west it's not nearly as performative
yeah no shit
a person who writes this many words about their personal vacation has some kind of ulterior motive for sharing the information, even if the motive is "i want people to appreciate my writing skills and jokes"

totally going to take a selfie at the I-80 truck stop in a couple weeks though

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKMqVnxWkAUweFu.jpg:small

fails were made

the nazis are so not made of win smh lol

https://gizmodo.com/facebook-used-an-i-will-rape-you-image-to-invite-users-1818638390