iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

this article both informative and unintentionally funny http://mashable.com/2017/08/02/sarahah-snapchat-story/

huh

I've seen people use curiouscat or w/e on twitter, seems like it's about the same thing

I don't think I've ever had the experience of interacting with people I know in a non-anonymous way with anonymous comments like that. Seems... bad

yeah already a few people using it have reported abusive comments made, it's too much like a powderkeg for me to try it.

how old are the people using it?

mid-20s to early 30s, most of the abusive comments reported tho came from people in mid-20s

are they really teens, though

at heart perhaps

are these also the same people who grandly announce that they're trimming down their facebook friends list and that they will only keep people who like or comment on the post? or people who post things like "you really fucked up this time. i don't know if i can forgive you after last night. pray for me, friends." and then wait for people to ask about what went wrong, or even better, for the person who wronged them to publicly defend themselves on facebook so that they resume their argument in public?

maybe a handful, not most of them.

it's kind of a stupid app too cos unlike Formspring, you can't respond in the app so they have to post screencaps on FB and respond there.

half the posts are people purportedly saying "I'm secretly in love with you" in whatever crepey way they prefer

stupid brief-lived apps are the heart and soul of the net tbf

technological innovation for people to make each other feel bad :(

i haven't heard the first thing about either of these apps but strenuously avoid interacting the sort of people described above

i used the app 'yikyak' for a couple days for shits and giggles and it just made me feel awful and sad about the world

yikyak was only good for trolling college kids

and by trolling, I mean responding to people saying mean things by doing the "hmm sounds like you diss others to prop up a low sense of self-worth, maybe you should think about that!"

tbh i have no time for that (teaching jerks a lesson)

IMO all of this is a side-effect of Eternal September

this wasn't facebook, but the propensity for people to passionately adopt a stance despite having read one source of outrage reminded me of the worst clusterfucks: http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/the-toxic-drama-of-ya-twitter.html

(short version: a YA novel is lambasted by a single blogger who wrote a 9000 (!) word summary/takedown claiming it's horrible and racist, causing a flurry of bad reviews and complaints by people who had not read the book)

the blog rant is one of the most incoherent things I've skimmed

if we have any sort of book culture/YA fiction thread, it might be worth posting there

I posted in the "free speech and creepy liberalism" thread.

toxic drama of YA twitter is OTM
holy crap

for reference, here's where the discussion starts on the other thread:
Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

Shocked and saddened master frodo

I do think people often let social media condition them into thinking they have to adopt an opinion on every hot button topic ("inaction is still an action!"), and that while ignorant people speaking on things they learned five minutes ago is hardly new, that many people were more content just letting things go by without comment like ten years ago.

that and the more link-driven format of today's social media is to blame too. I remember when FB still supported link embeds but didn't advertise it, so most people didn't do it because they didn't know how.

people gotta chime in

part of me has been tempted to create some hoax to get thousands of people outraged and somehow convince them the only way to fight the outrage is to funnel money to this Kickstarter that secretly goes to me under a pseudonym

but I'm lazy and dumb so I decided not to

Part of me wants to stop making creative work other people can see

Oh wait: done

i watched this because a pal of mine did the interviewing and this guy will seriously make you want to banish facebook from your life forever. i mean, for a minute he will. kinda drove me bonkers. i'd never heard of him. but he scared me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_SpOdacVY&t=2135s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_SpOdacVY&t=67s

uh never mind. those aren't showing up? whatever.

or people who post things like "you really fucked up this time. i don't know if i can forgive you after last night. pray for me, friends." and then wait for people to ask about what went wrong

OMG I used to have a few people on my feed that'd pull that shit, but if you dared to ask what the issue was, they'd say 'oh i dont really want to talk about it here' or 'its private'. FFS, you just bleated about it on FB!

OR, no one replies at all because frankly we're all sick of their shit and then they have a sook that no one gives a shit about them.

and just like that! the facebook friend most likely to post in the manner described above has posted a link to sarahah
:( people

Zuckerberg is 4 days late, can't say "Trump" or mention Facebook's role in targeting/amplifying hate. He can't run if he's this compromised pic.twitter.com/vGHG08Y3yJ

— Nitasha Tiku (@nitashatiku) August 16, 2017

run? zuck for what?

1500m world champion

LL, are you not aware of the speculation on why Zuckerberg has been doing this weird cross-country tour to small town america? surely he's running for president

not sure I buy that argument, but I would guess it has crossed his mind

he'd be better off starting his own reality show

that's the route to president, I guess

mid-20s to early 30s, most of the abusive comments reported tho came from people in mid-20s

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LL, are you not aware of the speculation on why Zuckerberg has been doing this weird cross-country tour to small town america? surely he's running for president
no this is the first i've heard of his weird cross country tour. now i know!

It's not a "weird" tour. When I was young every summer my family would drive all over the country, trying to hit as many states as possible. Then again I did grow up to become President.

you didn't do so as a public figure! dude has 95 million facebook 'followers'

if I post a little bloggy-style thing on facebook with my road trip through the american west it's not nearly as performative

the bad thing is I had to search for Zuck's fb profile to get that number and figured out I have one friend in common with him

and hilariously, it's not the one who used to work at fb

I keep feeling like social media is bad for my anxiety cos i measure my feelings against other people's when things happen and i always feel mine is wrong

Largely cos i am always detached and then i cry later at a kids movie

the less close social interaction (dating or committed relationship, living in a home or apartment with other people) I have, the more likely I am to tear up at a kids movie

I think it's normal, you have to have some base level of social interaction or third-party, even fictional, situations will surface that emotional capital you're not spending

Yeah that's true. Living alone has increased that - i still get out a lot but i only talk to invisible co-workers most of my day

It's not a "weird" tour.

http://i.imgur.com/ABZS4pL.png