Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Yep

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)

iirc donegal is the one place in the republic where "ulster scots" is spoken which i suppose points to a scottish influx back in ye olden imperial days

Do they speak Ulster Scots in Donegal? I mean what is Ulster Scots other than Ulster English with the occasional Scots sprinkled about? There's a definite Scottishness about (some) Donegal accents but maybe that was always there.

also lots of scottish people of irish descent are of donegal descent (you can get a bus to donegal weekly from the gorbals) and id imagine quite a few have maintained links.

Pretty much all of them that I know. Though a lot of those are related, often fairly distantly!

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)

... Scots words sprinkled about, that is.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:42 (eight years ago)

that's a contentious question!

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:53 (eight years ago)

re: nosh

Never tire of revisiting this classic -
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/jul/23/mediamonkey

re: Ulster Scots

I believe it is still spoken in a few parts of Donegal (mainly towards the Derry end of things) but I've never encountered it in the wild

Number None, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:13 (eight years ago)

I thought nosh was polari, given the second meaning here

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/nosh

But i guess polari took words from everywhere.

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2017 05:23 (eight years ago)

(um, should've read number none's link first)

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2017 05:25 (eight years ago)

I have no problem with nosh, but "nom nom" needs to stay out the actual world and stick to cutesy spaces like food Instagram and the Rachel Maddow show.

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:17 (eight years ago)

Nosh always sounded annoyingly British to me so I'm surprised it's Yiddish

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:30 (eight years ago)

If something is annoying British it's usually Hindi or Urdu.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:48 (eight years ago)

Thankful that the most popular deli when I was growing up in Minneapolis advertised itself with the slogan 'kibbitz and nosh'.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:50 (eight years ago)

(xp) annoyingly, dammit

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)

I love Yiddish, the words are always satisfyingly full-bodied

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:07 (eight years ago)

tchotchke is a good yiddish word

koogs, Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:53 (eight years ago)

kibbitz and nosh, kibbitz and nosh, im gonna get me some kibbitz and nosh

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:53 (eight years ago)

I didn't even know nosh was used in the US.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:54 (eight years ago)

http://s1124.photobucket.com/user/LouFamFun/media/LouFamFun006/IMG_4631_zpsvhgzqpjr.jpg.html

They use it in Kentucky even

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:09 (eight years ago)

https://www.thebrothersdeli.com

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)

If something is annoying British it's usually Hindi or Urdu.

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:48

Examples?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:02 (eight years ago)

Can't get more British than Blighty!

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:06 (eight years ago)

Actually, there's not as much as I thought, pukka is another one, khazi isn't.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:07 (eight years ago)

bungalow!

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:10 (eight years ago)

it's hindi, tho not particularly annoying

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:10 (eight years ago)

It is pretty British. I thought a nice cup o' cha, might be from the Raj but it's Chinese, it seems.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:12 (eight years ago)

Nosh always sounded annoyingly British to me so I'm surprised it's Yiddish

This sounds like a lost Mike D. lyric.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:14 (eight years ago)

(xp) some say Hindi though.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:17 (eight years ago)

lots of food (inc.curry and chutney) and fabrics (calico) and religious terms (avatar): plus pyjamas, gymkhana, shampoo, juggernaut, pundit, parah, thug, verandah, doolally and jungle!

also chota peg, tho i don't think anyone really says this any more

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)

wiki sez cushy, khaki and loot also

ogmor, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:35 (eight years ago)

Dekko too. I've been misspelling it.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:35 (eight years ago)

Cushty however is Romani. Since I brought up 'pukka' and plunged us into Jamie Oliver territory.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:36 (eight years ago)

other romani words: chav, cosh, nark, pal, shiv, skip (as waste-container), togs… and lollipop!

(some of these arrived via polari)

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:50 (eight years ago)

I was using pukka in the tec in achill from 1995 onwards on account of a Dulwich cousin. Never took off.

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)

Mufti, boycott.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)

Think we claim boycott tbh

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:13 (eight years ago)

... and Tory.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

Boyce is in my Tories I love list tbh

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

Boycs, fucking spellcheck

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

"you do you"

a friend said this to me after i disagreed with his assessment that twin peaks should've been 9 episodes instead of 18.

This phrase sucks and is as bad as "live and let live" - the ultimate cop out

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)

even worse "you do you, boo"

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

^ ah that sucks

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)

You do you and live and let live are excellent concepts and reactions to differences of opinion

You may disagree. You do you.

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:20 (eight years ago)

hmm. I usually hear "You do you" in the context of "That's a great hat! You do you, girl."

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:28 (eight years ago)

Isn't the implicit tag-end of 'you do you...' something akin to '...like a dumb, aberrant clown who amuses me'? It's this season's 'ooooookaaaaaay....'.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:34 (eight years ago)

Have never heard or heard of 'you do you'.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:50 (eight years ago)

Origins in African American vernacular so not widely heard in the UK

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:52 (eight years ago)

interesting the article focuses on the positive aspects of "you do you". It strikes me as a way to abruptly end discussion, another form of "agree to disagree".

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:57 (eight years ago)

but sure it could probably be used in many contexts

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:57 (eight years ago)

Nothing inherently wrong with ending a discussion based on difference of opinion tho

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:00 (eight years ago)


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