Is the work of Steven Soderbergh the most overrated thing ever?

I am amazed at how few people I know who have still not seen Out of Sight. The one film of his formative years I think I still haven't seen is the Underneath, which if I recall correctly also has a radical color scheme and plays with time as well.

Ouch, too many double negatives in my post. Meant how many people I know who have not seen Out of Sight.

Soderbergh is correct to call The Underneath his crisis film. You can see him lose interest in this kind of movie and narrative approach.

He seems to go into crisis mode with some consistency. While I think most of his stuff is pretty middlebrow, he's a really smart guy, and I think sometimes struggles balancing his intelligence and perhaps more radical inclinations with his similar urge to entertain. Epitomized by stuff like this:

http://extension765.com/soderblogh/18-raiders

I recently re-watched the Oceans films with my older one, and the sheer half-assed indulgence of the second one still made me mad.

Preferring Magic Mike XXl doesn’t mean we weren’t relieved that Soderberg directed the male gaze at beautiful lunks in movement the first time around

as DOP and editor, Soderbergh is still directing the gaze on XXL

(whatever gender or orientation it is - XXL is obviously very intently concerned with the female gaze, but welcomes anyone to be part of it)

i'd be really interested to know more about how xxl was made - i find it hard to imagine soderbergh being on set with actors he's worked with before and being content to just concentrate on the photography

i dunno, maybe it felt like a holiday or something for him but for someone who usually acts as his own dp when directing i wonder how difficult it was to separate the two

(xxl is rad btw)

The abs also gaze

the abs really follow you around the room

I found Sex, Lies....almost unwatchably dated when I first saw it maybe 5-6 years ago

He's made plenty of "good" movies, Alfred, relative to output or not.

I LIKE DATED MOVIES

https://global-uploads.webflow.com/5919d6d68b5a6075f26e5f3f/591b124dcd9384478b51737a_cast_dwightYokam.jpg

^^ Dwight Yoakam in Logan Lucky, btw.

nice. he was underused in the Amazon show he did recently.

Again, I don't know what dated means.

He's made plenty of "good" movies, Alfred, relative to output or not.

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), T

well, yeah, I found 10 of them, didn't I?

is there a logan lucky thread or are we doing that here?

Sunday Times profile

“I’ve really lost my interest as a director — not as a producer or viewer — in anything that smells important,” he said. “It just doesn’t appeal to me at all anymore. I left that in the jungle somewhere.”

Among the contemporaries whose work excited him, he singled out M. Night Shyamalan, the oft-derided suspense director. He has reinvigorated himself with recent movies like “The Visit” and “Split,” Mr. Soderbergh said, adding, “He went back to his roots and has rebuilt himself, and is right back where he was.”

People who think The Informant! is good confuse me.

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2017/8/15/16145880/steven-soderbergh-movies-ranked

Hoping to get to LL tom'w! Tatum with a gut, Driver with a prosthetic arm, Craig with an impenetrable accent!

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/4757-the-daily-steven-soderbergh-s-logan-lucky

I like Scott Bakula and the sepia tone off The Informant! and dat's dat.

I'm stuck between LL and Wind River.

hello i am watching the Limey at the moment
how do you do?

YOU TELL 'IM I'M COMIN'!

That film is so good

log lucky was ok, bit too oceans-y

I liked it, not usually into Soderbergh but it was fun

the answer to this thread title is still 'no'

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2017/8/15/16145880/steven-soderbergh-movies-ranked

From the 15-16 I've seen on that list, I'm impressed by his sheer competence. At best pretty-good, at worst interesting if not actually good.

Hoping to get to LL tom'w! Tatum with a gut, Driver with a prosthetic arm, Craig with an impenetrable accent!

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/4757-the-daily-steven-soderbergh-s-logan-lucky

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius),

It was OK.

Anyone see his 2001 reedit? It's impossible to find.

Happy to see The Limey do so well on that list (and on this thread), love that film.

It was OK.

otm

thought Logan Lucky was extremely good

Really? To me he spent so much time making sure the plot was humming that the characters came off thin.

maybe? not so much that i noticed tbh. i enjoyed all of the performances a lot, and the milieu just as much.

I love Cliff Martinez's soundtrack music for Solaris.

Loved the world of Logan Lucky, reminded me a bit of Sean Baker? The sun-baked vistas with those box-shaped gas stations and shops, the slight unreality of the nascar/beauty pageant scene. The sense of a society that doesn't fit together.

It worked better in Erin Brockovich

I didn't hate it or even dislike it that much; I felt nothing when it ended except, "This is long."

Going to see it this weekend.

Also, there's a v. good Elvis Mitchell interview with Logan Lucky's costume designer, who also did Behind The Candelabra, Wall Street, Fatal Attraction.

This was really good and really fun - waaaay better than fuckin baby driver or valerian. I'm with morbz - Channing Tatum is hot af in this - I like him a little more chunky, a little less lean.

*Logan Lucky

Tatum's hot, yeah, but the rest not so much.

I dug Logan Lucky, especially how it played with the aspirational pleasures of heist movies. When each teller, clerk, etc. gets manipulated (especially the one who gets the birthday cake), there's a tug that's different from fooling the Vegas guard or Cannes concierge.

Sharp take by Alfred above.

LL was a nice baked comedown after the rush of Mother! the previous evening. Cool to hear John Fahey on the soundtrack and yes, sooo much better than the wretched Baby Driver - this is how you do a comedy heist crime romance movie.

New...not a movie, not a TV series...

https://www.wired.com/story/steven-soderbergh-new-app-mosaic/

"an NCSA production"

Steve joins the iPhone brigade!

“We hear that the pic will go wide. This is the thriller that Soderbergh reportedly shot on his iPhone and which stars Claire Foy, Juno Temple, Amy Irving, Aimee Mullins, and SNL alum Jay Pharoah.”

http://deadline.com/2017/11/claire-foy-juno-temple-steven-soderbergh-unsane-march-23-release-1202208079/

Really enjoying Mosaic so far. Not sure if the formal gimmick will pay off but it’s a decent murder mystery.

is it US only? i don't see it in the app store.