Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

My girlfriend tells me that Jay Ferguson, who played Stan on Mad Men, is in the cast list but has yet to appear. Whoever he's playing, he's my new pick to be the voice that Evil Cooper talked to in the motel room in pt. 2. It kinda sounds like him. I'm still mostly hung up on plot points from the first two episodes.

xp hell man, they didn’t reveal who Gossip GIrl was until the show’s finale

oh that's right

I’m assuming it’s the fact CBS forced Frost and Lynch into answering that question, when they were going to let it linger and do the soap opera style thing as long as possible instead of going straight toward the resolution of the murder investigation.

yep. here's the way he describes it in Lynch on Lynch (sorry in advance for my typos and other weird mistakes, i am eating leftover thai at the same time and my limbs and digits are flying left and right):

INTERVIEWER: By the time we got to the answer - that it was Leland - it doesn't really seem to matter any more. By then it's clear that an evil force - Bob - is operating from within the "host" character anyway. So pointing the finger at Leland isn't really an answer at all.

LYNCH: It's not an answer. That was the whole point. Mark Frost and I had this idea. The way we pitched this thing was as a murder mystery but that murder mystery was to eventually become the background story. Then there would be a middle ground of all of the characters we stay with for the series. And the foreground would be the main characters that particular week: the ones we'd deal with i detail. We're not going to solve the murder for a long time.

This they did not like They did not like that. And they forced us to, you know, get to Laura's killer. It wasn't really all their fault. People just got a bug in them that they wanted to know who killed Laura Palmer. Calling out for it. And one thing led to another, and the pressure was just so great that the murder mystery couldn't be just a background thing any more. The progress towards it, but never getting there, was what made us know all the people in Twin Peaks: how they all surrounded Laura and intermingled. All the mysteries. But it wasn't meant to be. It just couldn't happen that way. The yearning to know was too intense. But the mystery was the magical ingredient. It would've made Twin Peaks live a lot longer.

"THERE IT IS ALBERT, THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG"

well by that standard I'd say he's got another 4-5 seasons in him the way things are going now

compare this to that shitty show Pretty Little Liars which never answered the main question of who the secret identity of some character was for like 8 seasons and people loved it (why do I now this? I got bored and watched a full season of it at some point on netflix)

― akm, Monday, July 31, 2017 3:54 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hate to break this to you but they reveal that character three times over seven seasons which i have unfortunately watched every minute of

Cole's damsel taking three minutes to leave the room had me in stitches, there was something spooky and unreal about her smile too.

I totally read this scene as a reference to Laura Dern's terrifying grin moment in Inland Empire

oh wait my favorite moment in the last episode was carl telling his neighbor not to sell his blood

carl rules so much

his uber whistle is fantastic

i am currently rewatching fire walk with me and carl is the best character? "you see, i've already gone places. i just wanna stay where i am"

Between his recent song and last night's moment, I've really come to love Carl so much

“Keep your blood, Kriscol.”
—Carl Roddhttps://t.co/hvRyWzGvbM #TwinPeaks pic.twitter.com/Yyrh1L1JoF

— Twin Peaks 🍷 (@ThatsOurWaldo) July 31, 2017

Ohhhh, there was an 'L' at the end. Thought that dude's name was Crisco.

the great surprise of this show is the characters who have been given new prominence (carl, bobby, gordon, albert, hawk) and the ones who are completely new (diane, janey-e, bushnell, candie, bill hastings, frank, bad coop, chad). so many all-time legends here.

Re: what someone said upthread about Audrey's appearance, Lynch definitely falls back too much on making female characters shrill harridans being reactive in the face of stoic men who are reasonable and in control of their emotions.

It's one of his worst impulses

I was wondering in the middle of her rant if there would be a reveal that this was her big scene from the 37th season of An Invitation To Love.

I'm pretty sure "terrible soap opera" was the vibe they were going for in that scene. It felt intentionally absurd in that way.

Feeling Cooper won't snap out of it til nearly the end (if at all) - that's one of the biggest mysteries her.e I'm sure Lynch has learned (in re: to annoncing Leland as killer in season 2, episode 14) the damaging reality of letting the cat out of the bag too soon. But who knows, see what happens.

I really need to know what was banging around in Sarah Palmer's kitchen.

wilson

Turkey jerky reminded me of "Welcome to Canada. You won't find a turkey dog here," from the debauched bar scene in FWWM.

I put it to you: in line with the themes of this show, turkey is a malignant doppelgänger for red meat.

Or maybe she's got a turkey in there.

fire walk with me is the best movie in the whole world

long gone like a turkey in the corn

I really need to know what was banging around in Sarah Palmer's kitchen.

Josie's soul trapped in the crisper drawer of the fridge

I was so happy Carl’s sign indicating he is to be bothered no earlier than 9:30 appeared

I seriously considered making a similar sign for my office but decided it wouldn't be a great idea.

it has occurred to me on occasion, perhaps even after typing that last post

mh OTM

carl is very good

"Or maybe she's got a turkey in there."

that would be so good

finally watched this episode and it was hardly as bad as I was led to believe. It was just kind of another episode; but we got Sarah, we got Audrey (even if her scene was irritating; I didn't think it was that irritating); we got, what I thought, was a pretty affecting scene with Ben; and we got a hilarious 5 second Dougie scene. Felt like treading water, I suppose; and there was almost certainly an intentional amount of extra names thrown out (the purpose of which, I have no idea), but I thought it was alright. Sherilyn still looks great. I actually thought her acting was pretty good.

Ben seems like such a solid dude this season

well except for during that phone call with his wife

ah yeah :-/

I'd be lying though if I didn't say this episode did have me wondering if The REturn might have been better at 9 episodes rather than 18

absolutely not

Shut your mouth

many of the set pieces will age like a fine wine

Don't worry I'm sure there will be some cracking fan edits that will deliver the plot with maximum efficiency

Can't be stated often enough how utterly full of shit lynch is about being made to reveal the killer obv, but you all know that if you've seen episode 14 & fwwm

Lynch said he was happy with the original tv series until "Who Killed Laura Palmer". What is he referring to? There isn't an episode called that.

there isn't an episode called anything

You mean David Lynch didn't really call something "may the giant be with you"?!

germans did that iirc

I know

oh

Is Lynch the kind of guy who would attach great significance to the number 13?

we got, what I thought, was a pretty affecting scene with Ben;

One of the best scenes of the episode. Not top heavy plot wise, but affecting all the same. The key, his tale about his green bike. He just let it rip and it was great to watch.

After ep 11 I was idly wondering about exposition, and if we'd get any, and I imagined (not dreamt) a scene in which Albert was explaining to Tammy the origin of Blue Rose, and used the word "taskforce". And, bloody hell, there it was. I think this series has gotten so far under my skin I'm now part of it.

Annoyingly, the NowTV app used a framegrab of Audrey as the thumbnail for ep 12. Oh cheers. I'm now going to have to navigate their TP page on Monday evenings with my eyes half-shut. The Sky Atlantic "contains scenes that some viewers may find disturbing" ident v/o is a bit of a spoiler too.

Didn't realise the Twin Peaks episode titles came from Germany.