Democratic (Party) Direction

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this is a pretty succinct statement of something I've been thinking for a while https://t.co/HPzn4fbAo3

— slackbot (@pareene) July 30, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 01:14 (eight years ago)

the highest levels of dem policy is all lawyers & economists. both fields suffer from key flaws. there are no social scientists to balance.

yes. but I know some people who are actively trying to do something about that exact problem

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 July 2017 02:19 (eight years ago)

I made a handy guide to when you can criticize the democratic party pic.twitter.com/2fybtCEN53

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 30, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:15 (eight years ago)

It's "tongue in cheek" because he does it every day, see?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:29 (eight years ago)

pic.twitter.com/ELwwEvoonp

— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) August 1, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:32 (eight years ago)

In what universe are economists not social scientists?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:04 (eight years ago)

a better one?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:07 (eight years ago)

Good article about NYC Adam's business venture prior to his "democrats bad" rebranding. https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2013/02/11/how-annoying-bar-customers-with-dead.html

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)

Economists are definitely social scientists, they just don't seem to think so.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:18 (eight years ago)

a lot of economists fancy themselves hard scientists, but i have touched them, their bodies are doughy and pliable

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:27 (eight years ago)

Also, they can be dissolved with surprisingly weak concentrations of acid.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

not sure abt economists but def too many lawyers in politics

flopson, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

too many prosecutors, anyway

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)

so at the risk of getting shit started, what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

1) Elizabeth Warren
2) ...

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)

That's about it right now, and even Warren has a spotty voting record iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:29 (eight years ago)

so at the risk of getting shit started, what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

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flopson, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:31 (eight years ago)

donald j trump

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)

How about we hold an actual contest? You could call it a "primary." Dunno, just spitballing.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:40 (eight years ago)

bernie stans are on their bullshit if they think he should be running again.

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)

what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

I literally think it's almost anyone. Every single person I've heard mentioned as a candidate -- Warren, K. Harris, Bernie himself, Amy Klobuchar, Gina Raimondo, Kaine, you name it -- is someone I would enthusiastically vote for and I truly believe most Democrats feel the same way. Am I crazy?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:46 (eight years ago)

show me which economists involved in electoral politics actually test their notional models against real data in order to inform policies? afaict most economists in politics argue from assumptions that haven't been challenged since they won their fake Nobel and just fit whatever numbers are lying around to serve the interests of whomever they're a hack for.

by social scientists I guess I mean people who understand why p-hacking is bad and how to use data to get replicable and actionable results instead of "mining" for ultimately meaningless correlations

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)

Am I crazy?

never underestimate the self-destructive factionalism of the left.

but yes I, like you, am on the anybody Trump train.

Honestly my biggest pipe dream is that Trump gets a primary challenger.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:55 (eight years ago)

Agree with eephus and Οὖτις,. None of the names mentioned are off the table for me. I'll let it play out as it must, but I know I'm going to enthusiastically vote for the Democrat in the general election (assuming it happens).

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:58 (eight years ago)

I will also, undoubtedly, have opinions in the primary re: who will actually be the best candidate

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:00 (eight years ago)

4 me, its not about which candidate can beat trump bc im p sure anyone can at this point. it's about who drives out the most downticket votes and can lead a progressive agenda.

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

bernie stans are on their bullshit if they think he should be running again.

I prefer Bernie to any candidate mentioned thus far and I agree w/ this

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:06 (eight years ago)

my kingdom for a charismatic socialist under 60

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:07 (eight years ago)

its not about which candidate can beat trump bc im p sure anyone can at this point

Republicans said this about Obama iirc

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:08 (eight years ago)

im p sure anyone can at this point

I'm not sure about this at all. voter disenfranchisement is going to be in overdrive next election.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:09 (eight years ago)

I really really think there's no way there won't be a better candidate than Andrew Cuomo, but i wdn't put it past them

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:10 (eight years ago)

(xp) Yeah, I mean, let's not sugarcoat it, the time to beat Trump was last time. He has lots of power to direct attention he didn't have before. I take it to be an absolute stone cold given we'll be involved in a high-profile military campaign in Nov 2020, and we'll be lucky if it's nu-Grenada and not nu-Vietnam.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:11 (eight years ago)

But, that said, Trump got incredibly lucky in 2016 and there's no reason he'll get incredibly lucky again.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:12 (eight years ago)

Bernie runs with Nina Turner, does single payer, and then dies. I think that's the plan.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:13 (eight years ago)

misread that as Tina Turner and was like "ok, sure"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)

We don't need another hero

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:15 (eight years ago)

my kingdom for a charismatic socialist under 60

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:07 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im not eligible to run until 2024 tho

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:15 (eight years ago)

also my platform of openly wishing for the collapse of the nation-state and sending care packages to assata shakur weekly care packages will probably end my campaign pretty quickly

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:17 (eight years ago)

also my platform of openly wishing for the collapse of the nation-state and sending weekly care packages to assata shakur weekly care packages will probably end my campaign pretty quickly

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:18 (eight years ago)

well played YMP, well played

xxp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:19 (eight years ago)

its not about which candidate can beat trump bc im p sure anyone can at this point

lol Dems are in a psychotic break from reality trapped in time loop muttering 2016 "he's unelectable" talking points to themselves.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:43 (eight years ago)

not here to humor your weak bullshit, pass

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:44 (eight years ago)

I really really think there's no way there won't be a better candidate than Andrew Cuomo, but i wdn't put it past them

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 1, 2017 2:10 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nobody is going to vote for Cuomo, idk why anyone thinks he stands a snowball's chance in hell

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:47 (eight years ago)

Cuomo no go, bro

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:51 (eight years ago)

Where's gabbneb?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:53 (eight years ago)

Symmetry required, etc

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:53 (eight years ago)

Cuomo has no national profile

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)

can't think of anyone else in the country wgaf about the governor of NY

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)

Whoever it would be has a couple years to build up one of those

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:06 (eight years ago)

few Dems under 70 do

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)

Trump got incredibly lucky in 2016 and there's no reason he'll get incredibly lucky again.

thx dude u just doomed 'em

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:27 (eight years ago)


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