brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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Has anyone seen the ad made by Momentum? Its funny and on-point but I am not sure whether its a conversation starter among divided families.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 11:29 (eight years ago)

Charles Arthur is a great science journalist, great piece.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:01 (eight years ago)

Xpost I've seen articles about how it's backfired, but never seen the ad. I figure it's just that the right see inconsistencies so that means it's gone wrong.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (eight years ago)

re: Charlie Gard - can't wait for the parents to negotiate a six-figure deal to sell their story, citing 'legal costs' as the reason they're doing it.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (eight years ago)

the ad's a bit 'your all hypocrits' without particularly setting out exactly what the difference is between the generations' circumstances but obviously complex historic social issues are not the easiest things to condense in snappy ads aimed at millennials (with their video machines and resultant short attention spans)

kinder, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:01 (eight years ago)

I've also seen accusations of hypocrisy because McDonnell and Corbyn allegedly hire members of their families so are just as guilty of nepotism as the people in the ad.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:14 (eight years ago)

Corbyn's son Seb is JMcD's chief of staff.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:41 (eight years ago)

I blame Hillary Benn.

nashwan, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:53 (eight years ago)

You could say that Corbyn and McDonnell DO see it. They can do something for their own but know they can't help anybody else except by being elected in a position to change policy.

I've had a scan of a couple of articles about it, one positive (Maya Goodfellow) and one negative (Deborah Orr).

I think the thrust of it - there is a gap between what the boomer gen expect of their children, and them refusin to see what they are facing - is pretty good. Some of the detail - do people parrot that "magic money tree" line? - didn't scan.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:16 (eight years ago)

I've only ever seen MMT parroted by BTL commenters on either side of the Atlantic until the Tories busted it out for the election.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:20 (eight years ago)

hodges going on novara to debate antisemitisim with michael segalov? dying

||||||||, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:36 (eight years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/31/labour-mp-barry-sheerman-first-serving-politician-registered-lobbyist

"I'm not a lobbyist, just Chairman of a lobbying company"

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:51 (eight years ago)

I hope Segalov makes him look (even more) stupid.

kim jong deal (suzy), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:08 (eight years ago)

I've always thought Sheerman was a complete fucking tool. Even when we he visited my Junior + Infants school in the 70's I can remember someone whispering: What a dickhead! Some of the idiot white elephant schemes he talks up in the local paper (cable cars down Leeds Rd anyone? Hmm breath in that carcinogenic air and admire the "view" and ridiculous ideas of covering the station-front in a giant hood) while the local A+E is facing closure and cuts are generally annihilating the place, get a lot of people's backs up. And that he doesn't live in the area and is almost a complete Tory is another thing.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:27 (eight years ago)

So many times I have heard people cite "I'm not voting for that Sheerman twat" or similar as a reason to vote for anyone but Labour.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

shouldn't there be a Cash For Questions style press furore and Standards and Privileges Committee investigation here? Or is it just more acceptable to be a grafting bent bastard now, because they are all bang at it?

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)

There was a blind item last week about a recently ex-MP that had been continuing to use his pass after the election.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:38 (eight years ago)

this poor little lamb was just looking for shelter and somewhere to keep his hands warm, perhaps?

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:57 (eight years ago)

Liam Fox department spends over £1m on headhunters for trade negotiators and it fails to deliver https://t.co/FtIQdqQk9r

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) August 2, 2017

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:43 (eight years ago)

the disgraced doctor remains the stupidest man in government

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:46 (eight years ago)

The yougov poll on Brexit was fun. Basically retireds are good with fucking young ppl for life and the hardcore remainers want the worst to teach everybody a lesson. When is Haneke's next film coming to the cinemas?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)

it was a bullshit poll, based on asking ppl to perform a thought experiment abt circumstances they don't believe will happen

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)

Most polls I've seen on Brexit say they would vote the same again (or there has been no major movement that I've seen) so this poll preys on your worst assumptions. I hope you are right.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:51 (eight years ago)

for all i know the divide and the heartless acrimony is worse, all i'm saying is that the poll is ill-fashioned

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:10 (eight years ago)

Liam Fox department spends over £1m on headhunters for trade negotiators and it fails to deliver https://t.co/FtIQdqQk9r
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) August 2, 2017

Recruitment! I've been thinking that any civil servant who really knew about Europe would surely be tempted to duck out and get 4-10x their current salary as consultant/contractor for a few years (yes brexiteers, you have created a new market, congratulations, this will all turn out well).

I forgot we'd end up paying for the middlemen as well.

tbh £1m seems surprisingly frugal for a headless-chicken government procuring at panic stations.

woof, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:44 (eight years ago)

electorate negging when yr manifesto is trashed

calzino, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:01 (eight years ago)

electorate negging when yr manifesto is trashed

Great new Fall single iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:55 (eight years ago)

Can someone finally tell me why it's "is is trashed" ?

Cake hawn. (jed_), Thursday, 3 August 2017 00:10 (eight years ago)

ed

Cake hawn. (jed_), Thursday, 3 August 2017 00:11 (eight years ago)

Theresa's mandate was trashed when she pissed away her parliamentary majority through hubris + complacency? Sorry if I'm misunderstanding your question jed, cos I'm quite wined up.

calzino, Thursday, 3 August 2017 00:20 (eight years ago)

that's cool, Cal! I just want to know why it's "is is trashed" two "is"s

Cake Hawn (jed_), Thursday, 3 August 2017 00:38 (eight years ago)

ah! I took that as an artistic-license type stutter to empathise Trash, rather than a typo! It's hard out here in ILX-land when your GCSE in metalwork is is Trash!

calzino, Thursday, 3 August 2017 01:01 (eight years ago)

no dis meant towards Mark or Jed here. probably best going to bed at this point.

calzino, Thursday, 3 August 2017 01:04 (eight years ago)

isis trash

nashwan, Thursday, 3 August 2017 01:15 (eight years ago)

theresa may aka eye am trash

nashwan, Thursday, 3 August 2017 01:17 (eight years ago)

Okey cokey pig in a pokey

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:43 (eight years ago)

I've been reading that thread title for months and I only noticed the second Is when Jed pointed it out.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:13 (eight years ago)

*wriggles fingers in mysterious fashion*

mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:19 (eight years ago)

Britain's negotiators seem so unprepared "some EU countries think it must be a trap", says @POLITICOEurope https://t.co/ERWxUmhUww pic.twitter.com/On6uk58ARq

— Alex Spence (@alexGspence) August 3, 2017

stet, Thursday, 3 August 2017 22:21 (eight years ago)

another stonker from aditya chakrabortty

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/03/britain-world-beater-ripping-off-citizens-rail-fares-water-energy-bills

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 August 2017 00:03 (eight years ago)

you couldn't make it up

conrad, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:15 (eight years ago)

*Endless screaming* pic.twitter.com/ZMMQuDTQoW

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) August 4, 2017

Dan Worsley, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:15 (eight years ago)

hnnnnnngggggggg

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 4 August 2017 14:16 (eight years ago)

^ What bg groaned

wtev, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:08 (eight years ago)

^ that's from 2008, so before Cam did his calm-down-dear bit to Angela Eagle in the commons

soref, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:18 (eight years ago)

Re the Cams, fuck those fucking fuckers.

Good piece abt rip-off Britain.

(grumbling about some rip-off circumstances of my own redacted, but fuck those fucking fuckers too, right.)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 4 August 2017 17:26 (eight years ago)

Kate Andrews on AQ tonight making me think it isn't just ILX where people should spare the world of their pitiful fucking opinions on other countries domestic politics.

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 22:55 (eight years ago)

I don't like her or her opinions one bit but she has every right to appear on panels like AQ. She has lived in London for some time.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 5 August 2017 05:21 (eight years ago)


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