Democratic (Party) Direction

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remy bean, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:22 (eight years ago)

yeah let me know how many silicon valley VCs or corporate big law dudes will take a 75% upper tax bracket

oh, I definitely agree.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:24 (eight years ago)

yeah let me know how many silicon valley VCs or corporate big law dudes will take a 75% upper tax bracket

oh, I definitely agree.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:24 (eight years ago)

pay it or go to prison

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:07 (eight years ago)

how the fuck do you even make a serious dent on income inequality at this point?

100% estate tax and guillotines?

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:13 (eight years ago)

A financial transactions tax on Wall Street trades would be a start. More high tax brackets on income, up to 75%. Ending easy shell companies based in the USA. New currency controls. Increasing the tax on capital gains over $10 million. Bigger estate taxes on estates over, say, $25 million. Changing how credits, deductions and exemptions are handled on high income returns.

The trick is to target the upper 5% and inflict just the right amount of pain at each level of wealth, so that the decision to move to some other lower tax country involves too much personal disruption and sacrifice to be worth it.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:44 (eight years ago)

again I just can see Dems ever doing the majority of those things, even the modest ones, soooo

100% estate tax and guillotines?

sounds p good right now

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 10:30 (eight years ago)

100% estate tax and guillotines?

sounds p good right now

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

hey, you know how a top ilx pastime right now is looking back on stuff we said a year ago for morbid yuks?

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:40 (eight years ago)

it's only a morbid yuk if it comes true and that'll take a lot more than a year I'd expect

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:54 (eight years ago)

“A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future”

wow with a slogan this good they don't even need policies.

better future? where do i donate my money?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:05 (eight years ago)

i like better future!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)

Yeah Schumer said the other day "we're not going to include any policies at all so don't bother looking it up, we're just going to use a slogan only" me and the people online I get my news from were all really upset about it.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:13 (eight years ago)

they should try to pass a bill stripping healthcare from elected representatives i bet that would be extraordinarily popular

Mordy, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)

Isn't it Better Skills Better Jobs Better Wages?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:28 (eight years ago)

was there just the op-ed in the NYT or somewhere more official to see a fuller slate of things?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:32 (eight years ago)

the policy aspects that came along with the new slogan were: $15 minimum wage, increased antitrust activity (believe that when I see it) and negotiating for lower prescription drugs (lol that went out the window immediately during ACA)

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:36 (eight years ago)

15$ min wage might mean something without a six-year wait attached, I also don't believe the antitrust thing, and that doesn't sound like he said single payer, that thing americans like

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:38 (eight years ago)

single payer? you mean "medicare for all" right? :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:58 (eight years ago)

but yeah medicare for all or gtfo

the coal industry and the health insurance industry need to be about 1/20th the size they are now. it's so dispiriting realizing this is the inevitable endgame but having to go through decades of stupidity and greed and millions of people dying in order to get there. surely we can jump start this?? have a plan for investment in renewable energy that includes specific initiatives for the people who lose their jobs, tangible stuff like training and actual monetary support. it's all the same thing. healthier people, healthier planet, higher-tech, fully automated luxury communism

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 23:05 (eight years ago)

universal basic income

universal health care

universal tuition remission

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 23:19 (eight years ago)

better ingredients
better pizza

Dan I., Wednesday, 26 July 2017 14:45 (eight years ago)

this is a pretty succinct statement of something I've been thinking for a while https://t.co/HPzn4fbAo3

— slackbot (@pareene) July 30, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 01:14 (eight years ago)

the highest levels of dem policy is all lawyers & economists. both fields suffer from key flaws. there are no social scientists to balance.

yes. but I know some people who are actively trying to do something about that exact problem

El Tomboto, Monday, 31 July 2017 02:19 (eight years ago)

I made a handy guide to when you can criticize the democratic party pic.twitter.com/2fybtCEN53

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 30, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:15 (eight years ago)

It's "tongue in cheek" because he does it every day, see?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:29 (eight years ago)

pic.twitter.com/ELwwEvoonp

— Pixelated Boat (@pixelatedboat) August 1, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:32 (eight years ago)

In what universe are economists not social scientists?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:04 (eight years ago)

a better one?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:07 (eight years ago)

Good article about NYC Adam's business venture prior to his "democrats bad" rebranding. https://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2013/02/11/how-annoying-bar-customers-with-dead.html

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)

Economists are definitely social scientists, they just don't seem to think so.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:18 (eight years ago)

a lot of economists fancy themselves hard scientists, but i have touched them, their bodies are doughy and pliable

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:27 (eight years ago)

Also, they can be dissolved with surprisingly weak concentrations of acid.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

not sure abt economists but def too many lawyers in politics

flopson, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

too many prosecutors, anyway

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)

so at the risk of getting shit started, what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

1) Elizabeth Warren
2) ...

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)

That's about it right now, and even Warren has a spotty voting record iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:29 (eight years ago)

so at the risk of getting shit started, what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

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flopson, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:31 (eight years ago)

donald j trump

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)

How about we hold an actual contest? You could call it a "primary." Dunno, just spitballing.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:40 (eight years ago)

bernie stans are on their bullshit if they think he should be running again.

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:43 (eight years ago)

what's the short list of people who could effectively bridge the berniebot/ clintonista factions?

I literally think it's almost anyone. Every single person I've heard mentioned as a candidate -- Warren, K. Harris, Bernie himself, Amy Klobuchar, Gina Raimondo, Kaine, you name it -- is someone I would enthusiastically vote for and I truly believe most Democrats feel the same way. Am I crazy?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:46 (eight years ago)

show me which economists involved in electoral politics actually test their notional models against real data in order to inform policies? afaict most economists in politics argue from assumptions that haven't been challenged since they won their fake Nobel and just fit whatever numbers are lying around to serve the interests of whomever they're a hack for.

by social scientists I guess I mean people who understand why p-hacking is bad and how to use data to get replicable and actionable results instead of "mining" for ultimately meaningless correlations

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)

Am I crazy?

never underestimate the self-destructive factionalism of the left.

but yes I, like you, am on the anybody Trump train.

Honestly my biggest pipe dream is that Trump gets a primary challenger.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:55 (eight years ago)

Agree with eephus and Οὖτις,. None of the names mentioned are off the table for me. I'll let it play out as it must, but I know I'm going to enthusiastically vote for the Democrat in the general election (assuming it happens).

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:58 (eight years ago)

I will also, undoubtedly, have opinions in the primary re: who will actually be the best candidate

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:00 (eight years ago)

4 me, its not about which candidate can beat trump bc im p sure anyone can at this point. it's about who drives out the most downticket votes and can lead a progressive agenda.

nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

bernie stans are on their bullshit if they think he should be running again.

I prefer Bernie to any candidate mentioned thus far and I agree w/ this

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:06 (eight years ago)

my kingdom for a charismatic socialist under 60

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:07 (eight years ago)

its not about which candidate can beat trump bc im p sure anyone can at this point

Republicans said this about Obama iirc

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:08 (eight years ago)

im p sure anyone can at this point

I'm not sure about this at all. voter disenfranchisement is going to be in overdrive next election.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:09 (eight years ago)


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