brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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Good for him.

the pinefox, Monday, 24 July 2017 08:27 (eight years ago)

the politics and economics of food are going to get very dicey for Brexiteers IMO https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/17/uk-sleepwalking-into-food-insecurity-after-brexit-academics-say

André Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 24 July 2017 08:32 (eight years ago)

Seeing as we have an extra 20 odd million to feed since WW2, and overall food self-sufficiency has been in decline since the 80's, the Dig For Survival campaign and return of ration books will please the ww2 nostalgia bores!

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 08:58 (eight years ago)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0949/4056/products/Autarky_Adult_Tantalising_Turkey_Potato_large.jpg?v=1469655819
2021, the year the UK achieved 100% self-sufficiency. But where have all the dogs gone?

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 09:13 (eight years ago)

ht to bizarro's Soylent Green processing plants

André Ryu (Neil S), Monday, 24 July 2017 09:18 (eight years ago)

http://www.sweetandnostalgic.co.uk/ekmps/shops/sweet/images/world-war-two-ration-book-replica-1078-p.jpg

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 24 July 2017 09:27 (eight years ago)

ht to bizarro's Soylent Green processing plants

finally, validation

he tasted like mouth (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 July 2017 09:36 (eight years ago)

Eh, i'm sure it'll all be fine in the long term.

We have a new paper out: why Britain should allow chlorine-washed chicken to get a quick trade deal with the US https://t.co/zoj0E8ope2

— Ben Southwood (@bswud) July 24, 2017

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 24 July 2017 10:58 (eight years ago)

Surely accepting imports from the US of agricultural products the EU doesn't like means the UK can't export those products to the EU.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 24 July 2017 11:04 (eight years ago)

tbf if we just agree to whatever demands other countries make we should be able to get trade deals super-quick

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 July 2017 11:12 (eight years ago)

"Adults would need to eat 5% of their bodyweight in chlorinated chicken each day to be at risk of ill health from poultry alone."

Love how this is supposed to be reassuring.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:17 (eight years ago)

I'd still rather eat chlorinated chicken than listen to those dog-shit podcasts that everyone raves about on here.

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:23 (eight years ago)

C2H4O3 traphouse

mark s, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:32 (eight years ago)

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/jeremy-corbyn-wholesale-eu-immigration-has-destroyed-conditions-british

So are they making him look like a reasonable concerner or is he being a reasonable concerner? As ususal Cardamon wd like ILX help in parsing news story

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 24 July 2017 12:20 (eight years ago)

i think he believes what he's saying, from an economic point of view. i think his solutions/response are at best naive if they amount to trying to create an oasis of state-regulated economics free from the ocean of ultra-liberal free trade that's still running the world beyond the EU

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 July 2017 12:28 (eight years ago)

I think he's talking about the literal 'wholesale importation of workers' (in the sense of going to a town in Poland, recruiting 40 people and sending them all to work at the same construction site or factory in the UK, without advertising the work here as well) but the language echoes the standard, less literal, idea of British workers being deliberately replaced across all sectors in a very unhelpful way.

There's a way to frame that, based on a sense of solidarity with exploited labour on both sides, that would be preferable.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 24 July 2017 13:35 (eight years ago)

Yes, what ShariVari said. Plays really well in Leave-ish areas where there are lots of 'fulfillment centres' and the like.

Why do Sensible Remainer types think John McDonnell is so 'dangerous'? I'm mystified.

kim jong deal (suzy), Monday, 24 July 2017 13:39 (eight years ago)

he wants full communism in the uk by mid-2018 iirc

crazed with patience (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 24 July 2017 13:43 (eight years ago)

Maybe him helping those dangerous disabled protesters into the lobby at Parliament last week was the last straw for some people.

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:50 (eight years ago)

these disabled Trot extremists just undermine the cause of keeping things more or less the same as they are now

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 July 2017 14:12 (eight years ago)

Plus MPs were trying to get to the Commons bars and these whingers in wheelchairs were holding them up.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 24 July 2017 14:16 (eight years ago)

Tbf on them, in the name of egalitarianism and consistency they treat disabled MP's like shit as well.

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:23 (eight years ago)

thread on the specifics of the Posted Worker Directive, which JC seems to be have soecifically been talking about*

Short thread on Posted Workers - I only happen to know about this because the pub I used to drink in is now a hostel for people who are...

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) July 24, 2017

*which is not to say that he didn't express himself clumsily**, allowing his point to be mistaken and mis-relayed by those journalist unaware of said directive, or aware but hostile
**by accident or design :|

mark s, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:56 (eight years ago)

Jesus, working away in Coventry used to make want to top myself. But these poor bastards getting trafficked across for minimum wage is a crime.

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)

across Europe*

calzino, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:07 (eight years ago)

Yes so my TL has totally blown-up over JC's remarks and its pretty much been used to attack him from the hardcore Remain side but also from the far-left, as a pattern. See this:

<Thread>
Corbyn's anti-immigration turn has been tested out for almost a year. This was entirely predictable & no doubt emboldened by #GE17 pic.twitter.com/eiXz4Qx83e

— A revolting migrant (@KojoRTE) July 24, 2017

Thing is, the way he has consistently voted - his actions - mean it would be quite a turn to take in this alignment with UKIP. It is a dangerous line he is walking on and there might not be a good end to this story.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 July 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)

Pukkah Punjabi‏ @PukkahPunjabi 43s43 seconds ago

How long till Liam Fox feeds a chlorine-soaked chicken to his child for the cameras?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:47 (eight years ago)

is there a worse politician in the uk than chris grayling?

ogmor, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:02 (eight years ago)

Never forgiven Grayling for banning books in prison (was always planning to catch up on my reading when I got sent down).

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:04 (eight years ago)

xxp a useful Fox tool, the Liam Foxinator: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/liam-foxinator/neighkpnbclgljfgdmijhabhgifdhabn

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:10 (eight years ago)

hah amazing it works on ILX too!

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:22 (eight years ago)

'Well, there we are.' pic.twitter.com/gfpgL8fC8z

— Kevin (@rascalblog) July 25, 2017

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 12:43 (eight years ago)

*phew* was worried there for a second

No deal? No problem!

Brexiteer James Dyson rejects notion a Brexit deal is be all and end all insisting WTO tariffs would be "no big deal". pic.twitter.com/lDom89rW4S

— LEAVE.EU 🇬🇧 (@LeaveEUOfficial) July 27, 2017

soref, Thursday, 27 July 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

i guess it wasn't a big deal for him to axe 800 UK workers' jobs and move all Dyson manufacturing to Malaysia either.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 27 July 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)

alarming lean on that balloon, i'd be fucking screaming

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 27 July 2017 21:40 (eight years ago)

I was gonna make a banal comment about Dyson's bad basicness and then I remembered he loves that shit so

Hope he dies in agony soon

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:26 (eight years ago)

Dying in agony is no big deal.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:28 (eight years ago)

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iyq96p1npoWs/v1/-1x-1.png
Meanwhile lots of non-millionaire citizens of UK cities facing the the very real possibility of life on Universal Credit, possibly not so sanguine about the prospects of a hard brexit.

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 05:11 (eight years ago)

don't know what an appropriate thread would be for me to gently question the fucked-upness of Charlie Gard's attention-hungry parents so this'll do

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 09:50 (eight years ago)

I've been trying to keep away from that story.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:01 (eight years ago)

i feel like they've been getting some terrible advice on publicity, most likely from the shady coalition of religious zealots who've backed them

more than anything i'm amazed and horrified that they've managed to turn public opinion against the great ormond street hospital - when you find yourself attacking a fucking sick kid's hospital maybe it's time to re-evaluate your thoughts and feelings

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:02 (eight years ago)

Good story in Private Eye this week about how lots of the Daily Mail exclusives on this story have been written (and signed) by the parents' publicity 'advisor', rather than an actual Mail journalist.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:05 (eight years ago)

i'm glad that the state now offers some protection to the autonomy of children from the whims of their - understandably - emotionally overwrought parents but i wish the process could be a bit quicker and less vulnerable to drawn out high court bullshit

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:07 (eight years ago)

the daily mail had eleven fucking pages of this story earlier in the week, btw

i guess i just don't understand what they want or expect to happen - their son has had basically no chance of ever having any quality of life, and no amount of publicity or high court wrangling is going to change that

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:11 (eight years ago)

Oh, don't be so sure about the public hatred for GOSH.

I live a block away from there and the circus has been totally fucking annoying. It may yet be that my life's greatest regret is not hurling a warm bag of whippet poo at the head of Nigel Farage while he did an LBC outside broadcast from the corner of my street.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:12 (eight years ago)

i feel the same way about the time my ex stopped me from shouting abuse at Jamie Oliver when we saw him at a service station on the M62

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:14 (eight years ago)

That was probably dog latin, so your ex did the right thing.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:18 (eight years ago)

Nope

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:30 (eight years ago)

http://www.melaniephillips.com/cruel-ignorant-campaign/
Melanie Phillips of all people shockingly otm re Charlie Gard case, parents and whole thing really.

gyac, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:30 (eight years ago)


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