brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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I know which I prefer. I guess the cool sophistication of Ocean Colour Scene has its fans tho

I dunno, if I was Japanese I'd probably be pretty annoyed with the legions of man-children across the world idolizing my country because of its productivity in churning out cartoons where dudes have harems of teenage girls. Like, not that that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to, but more often than not...

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)

Counterpoint: that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:46 (eight years ago)

Prick Up Your Ears is pretty good as well.

As is *ahem* The Queen.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

was just looking at the cast of Frears' Blair movie - The Deal (ulp!): Dexter Fletcher as Charlie Whelan, and father Jack playing John Smith!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:56 (eight years ago)

Sorry Tom, went down a booze-based compulsive rabbit hole

over-the-counter sexual-harassment products (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:36 (eight years ago)

what is it with high-profile brexiteers and the empire?

The British (1707 on) were almost always the Good Guys. Claiming otherwise is the very worst & emptiest sort of moral relativism.

— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) July 19, 2017

soref, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:58 (eight years ago)

You mean, aside from the obvious, that they're Little Englander dicks?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:18 (eight years ago)

I know which I prefer. I guess the cool sophistication of Ocean Colour Scene has its fans tho

I dunno, if I was Japanese I'd probably be pretty annoyed with the legions of man-children across the world idolizing my country because of its productivity in churning out cartoons where dudes have harems of teenage girls. Like, not that that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to, but more often than not...

― Daniel_Rf, 19. juli 2017 17:24 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was at a press screening for Isao Takahata's classic Only Yesterday this morning, and there was one in the crowd who wasn't a bearded man. It's a delicate, all most Fellini'esque two hour anime drama about a young girl growing up in the sixties. It felt wrong, somehow, as if the newsrooms hadn't really thought this through.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:19 (eight years ago)

let's make andrew lilico an ilxor

||||||||, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

Fuck that guy so bad. It's like leftie twitter has placed him in the "basically acceptable right-wing always-wrong poster who is OK to talk at and monitor for amusement" bucket (which bucket could use a catchier name) when actually with the minorest scratch of his surface you find a fundamentally racist, bigoted reactionary who belongs in the Hopkins bin

stet, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 19:23 (eight years ago)

From where I'm looking left twitter pretty much poured scorn on his defense of the empire stuff

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:02 (eight years ago)

Why are you all talking about Ocena Colour Scene? wtf is all of this?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:03 (eight years ago)

Counterpoint: that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to

― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:46 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's what all international student exchange amounts to

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:06 (eight years ago)

LOL

“Seventeen years of hurt ­never stopped us dreaming,” he said. “Labour’s coming home.”

Tony Blair is an asshole, but just purely as craft, this is fairly good.

Britpop was definitely cool for me when I began listening to music late 90's - early 00's. That Blur Best Of with the stylized pictures of them on the cover, and a bunch of songs that seemed to actually be about the world of today. Yeah, it was cool.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

#respectableLeft

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:07 (eight years ago)

Yeah. I heard Country House back in 99, and it really made me think. That's when I decided Macron was a cool guy.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:23 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFpyrYzPTw

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)

But Blair paraphrasing some fucking nauseating 90's Baddiel/Skinner (genuine shuddering) travesty is not even close to fairly good craft, Fred. There is nothing fucking good about it at all!

calzino, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)

It's catchy, and it positions Labour as idealistic underdogs. No, it's fairly good craft. But Three Lions is good craft as well. It's of course also loathsome and fuck that warmongering asshole. I mean, a comparison with Ignition (Remix) is not off the table.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:53 (eight years ago)

No it doesn't and no it isn't. You're not doing UK politics as well now are you?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:59 (eight years ago)

Right now I'm doing literary analysis.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:03 (eight years ago)

Good, I feared you were adding another string to your tattered bow.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:05 (eight years ago)

That's a bad metaphor.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:07 (eight years ago)

The line is corny af to begin with but I can appreciate it wouldn't be easy for someone outside the UK to pick up on quite how wince-inducing it is in the context of authentocrat pandering to imagined working class cliches, cultural gentrification, the intersection of 'Cool Britannia' jingoism and Skinner / Baddiel's ironic xenophobia / misogyny, etc, etc.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

Possibly it wasn't a line designed to appeal to the enormous voting tranche of ilxors

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)

If you puked up at Blair banging on about the People's Princess, this is similarly mawkish, like a warm-up for Diana-based speech chunder.

kim jong deal (suzy), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:30 (eight years ago)

Its good craft...yet loathsome. Its nice that someone can hold two opinions like this. Very progressive and open to things, our Fred.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:31 (eight years ago)

The irony is that xyzzzz is mainly just butthurt because I pointed out he knew nothing about French politics, yet insisted on his right to have extremely bad takes.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:36 (eight years ago)

Just a giant pile of pointless puke, our xyzzz.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:38 (eight years ago)

Praying for Denmark rn.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:41 (eight years ago)

Lol, I bet you don't even know what country Denmark is.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:44 (eight years ago)

Haven't seen a Danish attack on the English left like this since [history reference][football reference]

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:45 (eight years ago)

That's a bad metaphor.

Explain.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:46 (eight years ago)

What are you an expert in now? The English language or violin bows?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:48 (eight years ago)

He just has complex thoughts.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)

to defend fred on one thing, "another string to your bow" IS a bad metaphor

mark s, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)

Also it's archery, nothing to do with violins, so Fred wins all round.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:57 (eight years ago)

Haven't seen a Danish attack on the English left like this since [history reference][football reference]

― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), 20. juli 2017 00:45 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wonder if the British ever wrote about this, but Stephen Kinnock was a prügelknabe for years over here. Apparently, his marriage to former Danish prime minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt was a sham tax marriage, and really he is gay.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 22:58 (eight years ago)

Also, to be fair to Fred (again!), he was invited on to this thread (sort of) to discuss responses to Cool Britannia from outside the UK.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:01 (eight years ago)

Further chronicles of a garbage-fire indeed

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:20 (eight years ago)

Thanks to Brexit we're all in the prügelknabe now.

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:42 (eight years ago)

Its good craft...yet loathsome. Its nice that someone can hold two opinions like this. Very progressive and open to things, our Fred.

How is that two opinions? Politically abhorrent ideology can be finely crafted, surely no one questions that? #readsomefuckinggoebbels

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:15 (eight years ago)

fred spilling the hot tea on kinnock jr

he tasted like mouth (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:22 (eight years ago)

Maybe this Goebbels guy was ok but forget Blur and OCS. Non-starter. xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:25 (eight years ago)

Haven't seen a Danish attack on the English left like this since [history reference][football reference]

― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), 20. juli 2017 00:45 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Deep cut for the headz- remember Keith Curle being made to look like a park player by the Danish left wing back in euro 92

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:51 (eight years ago)

i know he's quite teasable but can we not turn every fucking thread into the julio deliberately misreads fred for spiteful jollies show plz

mark s, Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:53 (eight years ago)

I was thinking more of Sweyn Forkbeard but that'll do.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:53 (eight years ago)

(xp)

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:54 (eight years ago)

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e368274993fb35fff44e4296e97c3f066acb4ceb/0_86_4367_2620/master/4367.jpg

Liam Fox has said a post-Brexit free trade deal with the EU should be the “easiest in human history”, but insisted that the UK could survive without one.

However, he went on to concede that securing a deal would probably not be easy in practice. “The only reason that we wouldn’t come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics,” Fox said.

Have faith o ye in the Fox

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:59 (eight years ago)

Deep cut for the headz- remember Keith Curle being made to look like a park player by the Danish left wing back in euro 92

― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), 20. juli 2017 12:51 (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup. 8) 25 years ago this year. How many years of hurt is it you guys have now?

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 July 2017 11:02 (eight years ago)

Ask Blair I guess

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 July 2017 11:02 (eight years ago)


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