And make polar bears pay for it.
― Slid Viscous, oleaginous punker (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 23:16 (eight years ago)
The Trump Russia scandal is a pretty distinct thing from the "U.S. relationship with Russia" issue though in people's minds I believe. It does garner a lot of interest (hence the coverage) but that interest is really more "dislike of Trump" specific. Also unlikely Dems run on the scandal exclusively, they've actually been talking a lot about healthcare the last few months.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:12 (eight years ago)
the most russia-friendly congressperson speaks
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/07/congressman-asks-scientists-if-theyve-found-ancient-civilizations-on-mars/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:12 (eight years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Dana_Rohrabacher.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:13 (eight years ago)
Congressman Hoskins
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:16 (eight years ago)
collusion meeting at trump tower was to talk about martian adoption, no joke
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:41 (eight years ago)
trump is trolling us. next time he gives a speech he will walk onstage to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sxTbfeYdO0
― Treeship, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:56 (eight years ago)
i still tend to think this is being overblown, but if it hurts his presidency i guess it's justified. as lenin would say.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 00:59 (eight years ago)
Dana Rohrabacher is relatively pro-weed, maybe he was high for the hearing.
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 01:10 (eight years ago)
a sitting congressperson -- dana rohrabacher (R-CA) -- was working with the russians to scuttle a sanctions bill and was using russian propaganda to justify it around the time two-scoops supposedly didn't "meet with" his namesake son, his daughter's husband, his campaign manager, the crown jewel of moscow prosecution, and the head of the russian money laundering a-team about adopting russian orphans. i'm glad chris kobach (R-KS) is reviewing america's voter rolls in the wake of the 2016 election. taxes are theft :)
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:31 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96yWsrMXREI
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:18 (eight years ago)
one for the "shocking!" file
U.S. investigators examining money laundering accusations against President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort hope to push him to cooperate with their probe into possible collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia, two sources with direct knowledge of the investigation said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-manafort-idUSKBN1A70F8
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:02 (eight years ago)
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
There are dozens of things about this that will annoy some here - conflating Uzbeks with Russians, jumping all over the timeline, and so forth - but a decent rundown of how Trump since the 90s has been a willing silent partner in multiple money laundering activities by ruthless gangsters from the former SSRs, and eventually just started pursuing them as a fundamental demographic in his business model
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:19 (eight years ago)
i thought this was sensible https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-and-congress-are-probably-on-a-collision-course-over-russia/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:16 (eight years ago)
damn
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rnc-employees-asked-save-all-2016-campaign-documents
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 03:01 (eight years ago)
old news : )
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/28/539802914/businessman-paints-a-terrifying-and-complex-picture-of-putins-russia
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 20:52 (eight years ago)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/opinion/donald-trump-russia-collusion-cia.html?_r=0
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 August 2017 12:26 (eight years ago)
At the end of all of this, in a few months or a few years, several people in the Trump circle will be found guilty, or indicted, or otherwise be branded as complicit turncoats and disposed of/fired. Everyone short of Trump himself, tainted and still suspicious but too isolated and stupid to be a major player in this kerfuffle. And once those other half a dozen or a dozen or more people are out of the picture, his most die-hard loyalists, hacks and hypocrites will say, okay, let's put this behind us, time to move on, give Trump a chance.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2017 12:46 (eight years ago)
the aspens will already be turning
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:15 (eight years ago)
Ok lol
― popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)
the alleged financial shenanigans that pre-date last November's election
the slow-dancing with Russian oligarchs
the infusions of cash from the banks of the Volga that kept the Trump Organization in business
the overpayment by Russians for condos owned by the Trump Organization
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56839/mueller-trump-finances-russia/
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 4 August 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)
i believe over-payment on condos is how they got Benedict Arnold
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 5 August 2017 18:26 (eight years ago)
i believe russian jets have always buzzed DC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/us/russian-air-force-tu154-overflight-dc/index.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:27 (eight years ago)
Dan Gaffney, spokesman for the DTRA, declined to confirm the surveilled targets
not gonna lie, my heart skipped a beat there
― for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:42 (eight years ago)
lol
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 23:48 (eight years ago)
putin is playing comrade combover like a fiddle
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html
but her emails
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:42 (eight years ago)
8/ will be discussed. During all of the interviews, a FBI agent will be present, which makes it a crime to knowingly and willfully make a— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 12, 2017
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:47 (eight years ago)
More direct link to start of thread:
THREAD: What does the news that Mueller is interviewing White House officials mean for the investigation? https://t.co/N5x95qhHcU— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 12, 2017
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:48 (eight years ago)
fingers crossed this guy is the next MOOCH
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/george-papadopoulos-russia-trump/index.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)
Webster's dad?
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
THREAD: Why does it matter that a Ukrainian hacker is cooperating with Mueller's investigation? https://t.co/mhZVbXg9lo— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 16, 2017
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 21:24 (eight years ago)
According to people briefed on the developments, Steele has met with the FBI and provided agents with the names of his sources for the allegations in the dossier
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/glenn-simpson-key-figure-million-dollar-dossier-face/story?id=49348102
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:21 (eight years ago)
"look up pee tape," steele is reported to have told investigators
― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:23 (eight years ago)
man what a great week it would be for *this* to come back
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:32 (eight years ago)
i may regret saying this, but for now, the email prankster owns
More: Breitbart editor suggests he could have Jared Kushner & Ivanka Trump ousted from White House "by end of year" https://t.co/LciboyiRTZ pic.twitter.com/A8K365k5iq— CNN (@CNN) August 22, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:33 (eight years ago)
Yeah, Steele is probably all http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trump+pee+tape
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:46 (eight years ago)
I wonder if the 8 votes for "nothing" would shift to something if we re-polled the question.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:54 (eight years ago)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-dearborn-emails-trump-campaign-putin-meeting
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 24 August 2017 11:54 (eight years ago)
Grabbing lunch tomorrow with my former Federal prosecutor friend turned legal talking head. Any questions? He's an expert on white collar crime and, well, a lot of the stuff Trump has been accused of.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:36 (eight years ago)
How is babby formed
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:40 (eight years ago)
Done. Wait, Russian babby? Trump babby?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:48 (eight years ago)
Same difference
― Tarly Noise (El Tomboto), Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)
http://i3.cpcache.com/product/423928021/stork_baby_russia_usa_tshirt.jpg?width=300&height=300&Filters=%5B%7B%22name%22%3A%22crop%22%2C%22value%22%3A%7B%22x%22%3A25.0%2C%22y%22%3A0.0%2C%22w%22%3A250%2C%22h%22%3A300.0%7D%2C%22sequence%22%3A1%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22background%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22F2F2F2%22%2C%22sequence%22%3A2%7D%5D
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2017 22:50 (eight years ago)
How do I shot marriage, why is Dave Matthews so bad & hated, can I run bass through a guitar amp
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:00 (eight years ago)
Done, done and done.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:12 (eight years ago)
Is it reasonable to hope that Congress can way instain
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:25 (eight years ago)
I think my major questions be answered until Mueller spits out a report. So, just getting his general impressions based on news leaks to date would be intriguing enough.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 August 2017 23:40 (eight years ago)
OK, here is what I learned:
1) Mueller and his crew recognize the importance of this investigation to a huge degree - several of his people (my friend had applied to be one of them) left very big and/or lucrative jobs to join his team - so anything regarding the investigation that gets leaked or revealed absolutely is not coming from them.
2) White collar crimes are exceptionally hard to prove, since so many require knowing what was in the accused's mind, why they did what they did. So short of a dramatic smoking gun, he thinks Trump himself is very unlikely to be charged with anything. If he is, my friend thinks from what we know so far that obstruction would be the most likely charge. No way to know how Congress would handle that or any other charge.
3) Of the satellites, he says Manafort seems to be in the most trouble, not least because of the foreign agent stuff but also because there is a high bar for approving an FBI raid of his house. He says the Kush has good lawyers, Don Jr., has bad legal counsel, but from their relative silence lately Kush, Flynn, DJTJ, even Manafort seem to be taking this very seriously. He says there is no way Trump's lawyers have not told him how serious this all is, so has no idea why Trump continues to make things worse for himself.
4) When a man and a woman love each other very much, that is how a babby is made. Except for Trump, who can fuck himself.
My friend, btw, told me both of his parents are Trump voters/supporters, but while his dad is a lost cause (a prosperity evangelical who literally believes Trump was chosen by god), his mom seems to be responding to facts and reporting the right way. Generally, my friend thinks the damaging of the press/free press might be the worst thing to come out of this whole mess.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 August 2017 19:40 (eight years ago)
was there any speculation about why bannon hasn't (or doesn't seem to have) lawyered up? if there's dirt, did he get involved too late in the campaign to get smeared?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 August 2017 19:44 (eight years ago)
thx for the summary
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 August 2017 19:51 (eight years ago)