immigrant & ethnic food cultures, white ppl & appropriation, foodies

yeah, which is something drunk white dudes have idiotically yelled at asian women for years

uh, they yell that at non-asian women too

and as noted, it's not exactly original in that other people have already used the name, but they've probably had their own detractors. just kind of irritating that a local business did this, got some mild criticism from a local business and were blown off

Cookie Monster predates Full Metal Jacket guys

pretty sure their source material here is 2 Live Crew but sure

I admit I am giggling inappropriately at this criticism coming from "A Dong Restaurant"

apologies to everyone

that's really the best part, imo

I mean, if it was Miso Hungry then ...

but A Dong Restaurant was the most notable thing -- DJP otm

Now that that is out of my system, "Me So Hungry" is a terrible name.

Miso Hungry is kinda catchy tho

I had a random idea once for a Japanese-Italian fusion restaurant called Miso Mezzo that was only hampered by a) my complete and total inability to cook at the professional level; and B) Japanese and Italian cuisine going together about as well as Crisco and milk.

I like the name, though.

haha Miso Hungry is actually a highly regarded Japanese restaurant in Santa Barbara

xp - does Miso Soprano already exist?

There's a sandwich place in Illinois and a ramen joint in Virginia that both have (completely different) "Miso Porky" dishes on the menu

Miso Soprano is a FANTASTIC name

I bet it's taken

Beiriso is a sushi-or-pasta café about 150m from my flat. It's... not great.

Miso Soprano is a FANTASTIC name

I bet it's taken

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:46 PM (four minutes ago)

I don't think it is!!!

Just googled it

I can see it being an alternative to the Max's Opera Cafe chain

that's my stripper name

a friend of mine's roller derby name was Mis0 Hornet but she's chinese so she gets to choose.

http://www.boweryboogie.com/2017/08/uneven-ground-cb3-double-standard-regarding-chinatown-restaurants-op-ed/

enjoy

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2017/9/4/israeli-hummus-is-theft-not-appropriation

He's a jackass

Just in case it's unclear why look at his final paragraphs:

The main argument for "Israeli" food is that Jews prepared and ate staple dishes in Iraq, Morocco, Yemen and Palestine. This is indisputable. The rootedness of Jews in the Arab World should be acknowledged, studied, and celebrated.

But those Jews weren't eating Israeli food. To say so actually demeans Mizrahi history by suggesting an inability to partake of their own national and cultural milieus, another example of Zionism demanding a narrow sense of identity.

There's no such thing as "Israeli" food, period. Israel is a collection of Jews from throughout the world including Ashkenazi Jews who brought their cuisines from Europe and Mizrachi Jews who brought their cuisines from the Middle East. Neither blintzes nor hummus (nor bagels nor schwarma) are "Israeli" food but they're all authentic representations of the historical cuisine of the people who live in Israel. His disingenuousness making this argument is staggering.

This is indisputable.

Well...

I've noticed that even though everyone acknowledges that Chinese food in Europe is a) an adaptation of certain cuisines from China to Western tastes, much like Chinese food in the US but b) also quite distinct from Chinese-American food, there's not often much discussion on how this particular variant came to be; like even wikipedia lists a bunch of "overseas Chinese cuisines", including US, India, Japan, etc. but nothing on Europe.

I posted on this thread some time back an article on how Chinese food was received in France.

Was intrigued by the laphet talk upthread and made some -- really nice!

otm

http://www.dallasobserver.com/amp/restaurants/hot-joys-food-is-almost-as-bad-as-its-cultural-cluelessness-9890231

Carey appreciates the difficulty of the situation, to a limited extent. “I’m a white bro,” he admits, “and these are tricky things to comment on without sounding like an idiot in three directions simultaneously.”

He continues, “While I get that some people might think it’s shitty to appropriate Western ideas about ‘Asian’ things, it’s supposed to come across as intentionally over-the-top and cartoonish. I know the comparison might seem strange, but I thought about it the same way of going way over the top with ‘Italian red sauce joint’ motifs in doing an Italian restaurant.

The concept of "pan-asian" or random jumbles of mixed countries' foods like this is anathema to me. Maybe it is due to the fact we're basically a part of SEAsia here anyway but I could not take any restaurant that served Thai, Chinese, Japanese, Indian etc all lumped together with any seriousness.

enormous cheeseburger-stuffed spring rolls designed for stoners and fried until brittle

Barf. Spring rolls are not stuffed with hamburger, wtf you weirdos.

eventually all foods are cultural fusions, it’s just some people are very bad at it

on the other hand I had a loose meat sandwich a couple weeks back that was larb on a bun instead of generically seasoned ground beef and it was good

if I had to hazard a guess I would bet the Philippines would be the most likely country to have a native spring roll with beef

most chinese restaurants here are random jumbles of different chinese cuisines. i think a lot of the 'random jumbles' are down to the staff

Forget the cronut, a mince pie croissant is coming to London https://t.co/tAeSOBYH2R pic.twitter.com/1YU2qGKQQy

— Evening Standard (@standardnews) October 29, 2017

'Loose meat sandwich' is an unappetising term.

I went to a Dia de Los Muertos street party this weekend. Lots of taco trucks in attendance. Other people were really jazzed about the food, and it tasted fine. But it was NOT Mexican food. It was a weird inoffensive north-east gloss on Mexican food. I didn’t want to be an authenticity dick about it, but then I saw who owned/ran the trucks and it was mostly entrepreneurial white kids in their early twenties and I felt retroactively justified in my dissatisfaction. I think this white ownership is more often than not the case with food trucks these days? In my city they are opened by cadres of traditionally trained, largely white chefs under business licenses obtained by restaurant groups run by white MBAs. They are mostly serving food at farmers’ markets and craft fairs and downtown festivals for white people. It’s sort of sad, I guess, because food trucks have traditionally been a path forward for immigrants and low-income folks.

(i.e. various relatives who opened/ran them in a state of legal twilight that can't compete w/ a culture involving startup capital and venture money or w/e)

move to a city with less white people

remy otm, it's the gentrification of a previously affordable economic niche

I think local food trucks here are maybe 50/50 when it comes to established affordable tacos versus entrepreneurs running a pop-up location out of a vehicle, but the latter are over represented at food truck “events”

move to a city with less white people

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 29, 2017 8:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

america love it or leave it

Is that an absolute or as a % asking for a friend

and now there is this:

Our awesome sign is up! Wesohawni! #Misohawni pic.twitter.com/Fe5mlVQIwh

— misohawni (@misohawni) November 14, 2017

jfc

countdown to half-arsed public apology starting now

gender and ethnicity of owners was duly noted.

makes one ponder how many people they discussed this awesome idea with before getting the sign made and they apparently don't know anybody who at any point said "lads, lads".

move to a city with less white people

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 29, 2017 6:50 PM (two weeks ago)

mexican food in the northeast is such a sad affair. i remember my first year there, i almost cried at how "not right" the "mexican" food was. n.b. i moved back to California right after graduation.