The long overdue _Blade Runner_ thread

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*and scream

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 17 July 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

guys I bet this movie has a twist

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:01 (eight years ago)

there's no blade

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

and get this: he's walking slowly

nomar, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

the twist is... they are all Legos

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)

It's strongly implied by what Deckard finds in the final scene.

http://geekologie.com/2010/05/26/lego-unicorn-3.jpg

jmm, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

New trailer is not promising. I think Jared Leto is gonna sink this movie for me. He's just not a credible actor in any role and looks particularly egregious here - and apparently has very big part.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 17 July 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

Isn't the scene with Dave Bautista based on one that was dropped from the first movie? From what I recall from "Dangerous Days" it was originally supposed to be Deckard's introduction but was cut before filming started.

yeah, looks like it. I remember the bit about the pot boiling over

Number None, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)

really wish movie trailers didn't have to be a series of escalatingly tense moments leading to the title drop in 2017

mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:15 (eight years ago)

first trailer: "tell either side there's no wall, you bought a war"

second trailer: "if this gets out we've bought ourselves a war"

screenwriter clearly very taken with this very bad line.

The XX pants (ledge), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:04 (eight years ago)

I... like the second trailer more than the first one. A lot more, actually.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

I miss trailer narrators. Just because "in a world" is a joke people can make at bad parties and Lake Bell made a movie doesn't mean LaFontaine didn't have an important job that needs doing

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:06 (eight years ago)

I miss really vague trailers that just teased the movie's content

mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:08 (eight years ago)

There's some good imagery in this new trailer, no lie; there's also more of a whiff of the generic about it. (A minor detail but I especially like the way that conversations in the original film are shot -- lots of interesting choices in terms of framing, lighting, characters talking past each other. I get a hint of that in the Gosling/Batista exchange, not so much from the rest.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:12 (eight years ago)

I'm just angry the scenes with intense lighting/architecture are being spoiled with Leto

mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:25 (eight years ago)

Agreed Ned. This trailer has a lot more dialogue scenes and it's quite jarring how flat they look in comparison to the whiz bang visuals they've mostly focused on up to now

Number None, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:46 (eight years ago)

jared leto is in this

goole, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:36 (eight years ago)

well at least it will be twisted.

goole, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:37 (eight years ago)

Q: Leto's character is blind, as seen in the trailers for this. Is there any special significance to that?

Scott: This was my idea. You remember from the first picture, towards the end Batty destroys Tyrell's eyes before killing him. My theory was that this was a moment of, yes, special significance to a certain type of person. Wallace, in the new picture, is just that type of person. He has blinded himself, as Batty blinded Tyrell. He worships Batty, believes he possessed a measure of truth not known to humans. One where sight wasn't required. And in fact may block said truth. This is something I hope to see pursued further in sequels, this idea of this band of fanatics who believe replicants are utopian ideals of humanity.

Q: So you believe there will be more Blade Runner films?

Scott: I've mapped out three more beyond 2049. We simply need to line up directors. I hope to direct at least one, if not two.

nomar, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:48 (eight years ago)

You remember from the first picture, towards the end Batty destroys Tyrell's eyes before killing him. My theory was that this was a moment of, yes, special significance to a certain type of person. Wallace, in the new picture, is just that type of person. He has blinded himself, as Batty blinded Tyrell. He worships Batty, believes he possessed a measure of truth not known to humans. One where sight wasn't required. And in fact may block said truth. This is something I hope to see pursued further in sequels, this idea of this band of fanatics who believe replicants are utopian ideals of humanity.

this makes no sense either from a narrative or character POV

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:50 (eight years ago)

that's a speculative fiction interview

nomar, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)

lol nomar

mh, Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:00 (eight years ago)

believable Ridley content imo

mh, Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:00 (eight years ago)

Wait, that character's name is Wallace?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Wallace_and_gromit.jpg

Pheeel, Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:44 (eight years ago)

I saw someone guess that in this movie replicants have taken over and are hunting the remaining humans (eg Deckard) and that seems depressingly possible

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 12:22 (eight years ago)

Or they're hunting Deckard because he's the key to replicant longevity

or, completely unbelievable, there's a replicant child out there

mh, Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:18 (eight years ago)

Leon's V-K test that opens Blade Runner is still one of my favorite opening sequences of all time. Just on its own it's a tight little short film.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:20 (eight years ago)

This is something I hope to see pursued further in sequels

<groans> The more I hear about these sequels the more they sound like the sequels to The Matrix.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:59 (eight years ago)

No way is this movie going to be as much fun as The Matrix: Reloaded

El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:07 (eight years ago)

otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)

Big round table interview transcription with Villeneuve from Comic-Con here

https://io9.gizmodo.com/blade-runner-2049-director-says-harrison-ford-and-ridle-1797156876

Sounds like he's well aware that he can't escape the shadow of the original no matter what, not that that excuses what I still think from the trailers are some flat staging/framing/etc. moments. Anyway, some interesting answers, a couple of pat ones. (Would have loved an answer re music, if Vangelis has even acknowledged what's happening, etc. but maybe later.)

This might be the most intriguing part:

There was a melancholia, a nostalgia feeling of loneliness and existential doubt. A kind of inner paranoia about yourself that I wanted to keep alive in the second movie. I wanted to keep the film noir aesthetic alive—very important—and a certain kind of pacing, too, that I deeply love in the first movie. I tried to adapt it to the rhythms of today’s movies but I still tried my best to keep that tension alive. Ridley told me that it touched him because I was able to extend that atmospheric quality that the first movie had.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:40 (eight years ago)

I tried to adapt it to the rhythms of today’s movies

*grumpy face*

trailer looked beautiful in the theater yesterday

mh, Saturday, 22 July 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

the more they reveal of this the worse it looks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRcZ6yc1IMI

at least Prometheus managed to maintain the pretence til people actually saw the thing

Number None, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:44 (eight years ago)

I like Villaneuve a lot but this looks irredeemable

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:47 (eight years ago)

Original really needed more explosions and ship crashes and shootouts, would have been cheaper to just go back and add all those things digitally.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)

this looks like a fan trailer made from a bunch of deus ex cutscenes

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:52 (eight years ago)

this allegory with replicants representing the blade runner knockoffs of the last few decades, led by jared leto, attempting to destroy harrison ford to rewrite blade runner history

mh, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:53 (eight years ago)

this looks like a fan trailer made from a bunch of deus ex cutscenes

it kind of does, and I'm definitely getting in line for it

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 00:40 (eight years ago)

you have to not forget that I also love Johnny Mnemonic and Speed Racer

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 00:41 (eight years ago)

Speed Racer was amazing tbf

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 00:42 (eight years ago)

so was johnny mnemonic

, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 00:45 (eight years ago)

You guys have weird definitions of "amazing"

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 03:52 (eight years ago)

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Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 05:11 (eight years ago)

amazing shouldn't necessarily imply an endorsement - like, 9/11 was amazing imo

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:32 (eight years ago)

but i don't think it was entirely good

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:33 (eight years ago)

I think Villeneuve can be contrasted/compared to Nolan and comes out better but suffering from similar difficulties in translating jawdropping technical skill into satisfying movies.

Key difference is he's getting better and Nolan is in a spiral

Will catch this but already wish it hadn't been attempted and Scott had died with a "don't fuck with my properties" clause in.....idk, 1983? (Though I would miss that wine movie with Russell crowe- anyone could've directed the Martian imo)

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)

You guys have weird definitions of "amazing"

― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

speed racer is legit the best thing the wachowskis have ever done, come on

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:08 (eight years ago)

Leto appears to be channeling Hugo Weaving's Agent Smith voice, so it's all a rich tapestry.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:17 (eight years ago)

Best work by overrated hacks is still not at actual "good" level

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:47 (eight years ago)

publishing Shaolin Cowboy is legit the best thing the Wachowskis have ever done

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 24 August 2017 04:00 (eight years ago)


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