cutting people completely out of your life

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Ste I don't see a qualitative difference in my own life, maybe quantitative. and if you don't miss your ex gfs' friendships then asta la seeya anyway, huh?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's bloody hard to stop yourself being aggravated on an occasional basis if you are trying to exclude someone from your life and your life doesn't really allow it.

Yep, yep. Sigh.

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought I'd managed to do this with a former friend - in one conversation I asked her opinion on a situation a mutual friend A found herself with another mutual friend B, (ok, a bit naive of me) and soon found out that she'd blabbed to B, who had just given birth a few days before. Now the situation was about a party and whether or not the baby was invited. The former friend had not found out about the new baby for a good few days, and I'm guessing that she was feeling a little vindictive about not being told, so she stirred things up. Obviously B went to A causing a huge scene and big discomfort between A and B's husband, who were friends before B came on the scene. The cracks were papered over, and a compromise was reached, but the whole thing left a sour taste in the mouth, and I felt mortified at my part in it.

Anyway, I didn't make any effort to keep in touch, and thought that as 18 months had passed, that the friendship was well and truly dead. In the last month however, I received one email from her that she sent to a general email address at work, looking for me, and when I responded to it, she sent me another, which I never got round to responding to, and then two chasing up ones, including another to the generic work email.

Now do I just go on ignoring the emails, send her one and then just let it drift off again, or tell her that I was purposely cutting her out and do it again?!

Vicky (Vicky), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Tracer yeah, I'm not sure why I feel so cold about most of my ex gf's perhaps I really did just want them for one thing. who'dve thunk it.

you don't see a qualitative difference to what? yr girlfriends or the friendship cut?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Cutting People Off = TOTAL FUCKING CLASSIC and sometimes the only way to deal with shit that will not end any other way. I have just done it today, and it is the best feeling in the world. I feel free for the first time in a long time, I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

I have to agree. I cut an entire clique of people out of my life in the past year and I've never been happier. Enough said.

sugarpants (sugarpants), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anonymous poster - from what I can see you are logged out.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It's bloody hard to stop yourself being aggravated on an occasional basis if you are trying to exclude someone from your life and your life doesn't really allow it.

change your life then? it's not as hard as it sounds.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

bestest if you really can't stand them though is "take the high road" and smile pleasantly whenever they are near but don't really engage, this is trully evil however and will likely make them feel like that person peering in the fishbowl, trapped outside transparent glass; quite difficult to keep up the appearance without them seeing how crumbling you are inside, how shaking like a leaf (if you're anything like i am, at least); it is the only way to deal if you can't avoid seeing them tho, unfortunately

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

whoever wrote the first repost in this thread revive has a really nice and ingratiating prose style and, whatever they might believe, a sensible perspective on this whole thing.

i believe there are times when it just doesn't make any sense for two people to see each other anymore, because of simmering disagreements or differing expectations. but i've never been party to a decision such as the one suggested in the thread title, i.e. i've never cut anyone out of my life who was trying to stay in, and have never been in the position of calling or emailing someone who would adamantly not call or write back in an attempt to cut me out of theirs. i imagine that i'd find such a circumstance more puzzling than anything else, just a melodramatic version of the "we shouldn't see each other so much" that probably pretty much everyone's been party to.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

this is trully evil however and will likely make them feel like that person peering in the fishbowl, trapped outside transparent glass

this was an interesting comment, tracer, because this happened to me recently... where i ended up at the same event as someone who evidently did not want to see me, or had considerable anxiety about seeing me. (because they felt they had seen me too often recently, and because they had something to tell me that they hadn't yet worked up the courage to say.) this person was, almost literally, shaking like a leaf ... voice quavering ... eyes fixed firmly on her shoes. at the time i simply felt snubbed and frantically confused, although within hours that changed to a sympathetic contemplation of her own anxieties. what bothered me most, however, was that when we did eventually talk she didn't seem aware of the extent to which her own anxieties manifested themselves in her appearance and in her snubbing me. or else she just really didn't want to talk about it. anyway i expect to see her again --i mean, run into her--and told her so.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, as far as the thread title goes: i do this every time i move.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

whenever i move there are people i don't expect to see again ever, but not because of malice but just relative indifference. i wouldn't *mind* seeing them again, even if the prospect is unlikely.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

you mention, tracer, that two of the cases were women who cheated on you and broke up with you.... i'm wondering if a large part of the cutting-out was just due to the feelings of guilt that seeing you evoked in them? guilt is a very unpleasant feeling.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm just really bad at staying in touch with people. i know for a fact that i hurt some feelings when we moved from philly to where we are now. i think this goes back to childhood. when i was a kid, we moved to the other side of town and my best friend came by our new house with his mom and i just looked at him like: what are you doing here? am i even allowed to play with you anymore? i completely blanked him out. i still do this. people have tried to contact me from places that I have lived and i just can't comprehend why. i am no longer a part of their world.

i was a weird kid.

OMG! Am I a sociopath?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I am also very very bad at staying in touch with people, I worry that people think that I've cut them out of my life when in fact I'm just a very forgetful spaz.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been mad at friends and publicly cut them out and then really regretted it. It made other friends I didn't wish to alienate effectively cut me out. If the situation were to arise again, I would just stop associating with the person, without making a public stink about it.

Scott, you are NOT a sociopath. It takes effort to keep up with people when they're not around. But you've always managed to do it with the people who really matter to you.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Thursday, 3 March 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I have recently been cutting someone out who was formerly a very close friend. We were very close and at the time I had quite a crush on her, friends would tell me she was stringing me along but I figured "well we're just friends" while in the back of my head thinking maybe something might happen. This was despite the fact she had a boyfriend for the majority of our close friendship.

Anyway in the last month I've met someone else, whom I really like, it seems quite serious so far, serious in that it's so much fun.

It's odd, now I look at my close friend and I can see what my friends were saying, and I feel she was probably stringing me along. Now that I no longer fancy her I just see the ugly parts of her personality and feel a certain amount of animosity for her selfishness in messing with me for so long and the way she was able to manipulate me.

In the meantime she's broken up with her boyfriend and as I see it, is now boyfriendless and lapdogless (no me anymore, I mean) and is acting extremely clingy with me.

I feel now that we were only friends based on my fancying her, and I don't want much to do with her. She rings me and asks questions about my new girlfriend and feebly tries to wield her old power over me by saying things like "I won't embarass you will I, if I come out tonight?" and I just think "no but you'll fucking embarass yourself".

It's odd how the tables have turned, I guess I feel now that I am justified in cutting her out, because of the way of led me on. At the same time I think it might be a bit mean.

The only reason I feel like being normal with her is that we were friends once I suppose, and also perhaps because I don't want her to mess things up with me with the new girl.

On the other hand, on a night like tonight she rings and asks if I'm going out and I just think "I have a new girlfriend, it's going really well, you had your chance, now leave me alone"

: ), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

also see (slightly difft angle):

"Breaking up" with a friend

Friends Breaking Up

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

furthermore I think she expects I'll suddenly talk to her about my new girlfriend at length, which given the circumstances would be totally inappropriate and weird, and isn't something I'd want to do anyway, not least at such an early stage.

: ), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I have cut two people out of my life, on purpose, and it was an awful thing to do and I regret the way in which I did it.

I am also really bad at keeping in touch, too. Some people think I am ignoring them when in fact I am just in a funk most of the time, and don't think about much beyond the next hour.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

There are many people I have cut out of my life, because that's what you do when you break up with someone. Well, it's what I do, and I recommend it over staying "friends" any day of the week. Some of my breakups were uncivil to be sure. But I can't think of anyone that I wouldn't offer to buy a cup of coffee if I ran into them again. Maybe we'd have some laughs... who knows?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i do this almost pathologically, it's no way to live

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 3 March 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, kenan, that's kind of draconian

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I never consciously cut people out of my lives... like Nicole said, sometimes it's just me being too absent-minded or pre-occupied to get back to people who have tried to contact me, which gives the impression that I'm cutting them out... although, I suppose, if they really cared that much, they would try to get a hold of me via a friend and call me to say hi, to which I would not mind at all, unless they caught me at a bad time (which has happened before.)

And even if said person made it impossible for me to deal with as a friend, I would still never consciously cut a friend out of my life unless I was forced to.. everyone defines differently what "forced to" means, of course... but it has happened to me a couple of times, and frankly, I haven't regretted it -- only because I gave the people in question more chances than they deserved.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, yes, I do have "lives" not a life. meow.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I've cut off about a dozen people in the last 10 years. All I can say is, to lose a friendship with me you have to be quite the asshole - you have to burgle me, or something at that level. Chop, you're gone!

Nowadays I have generous, thoughtful friends and I really do wonder why I allowed myself to put up with the other kind for so long.

My advice: cut cleanly and without acrimony.

moley (moley), Thursday, 3 March 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, on a night like tonight she rings and asks if I'm going out and I just think "I have a new girlfriend, it's going really well, you had your chance, now leave me alone"

Whatever you do, DO NOT actually act upon this impulse. You will regret it in the long run.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I love it when people cut me out of their life for no reason. All the loose end thoughts I have about them, popping up randomly when I'm bored, keep me going strong.

low whisper of night, Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

To that last anonymous person - you are angry at being strung along, and angry at yourself for allowing yourself to be strung along. I've been in this situation and you're rarely thinking rationally in these cases.

Friends start to slag the other person off, because they think it will make you feel better, but in reality you just get more and more bitter. So even the mildest of bitching, or the smallest of negative traits, you are tempted to run and run with so they seem bigger and bigger to you and eventually you just have this monster of your own creation. In time, you'll regain perspective realise that maybe they're not the goddess you originally made them out to be, but they're not the villain either.

As it happens, I'm still friends with the assumed stringer-alonger and all these issues are in the past. I'm very glad I didn't cave into the self-imposed pressure and burn my bridges entirely.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, kenan, that's kind of draconian

-- Amateur(ist) ([email protected]) (webmail), March 3rd, 2005 2:34 PM. (Amateur(ist)) (link)

Well, it's not like I issue ultimatums or anything. "I close the iron door on you," etc. What I meant was, the only people I have "cut out" of my life have been people I broke up with, in which case the cutting-off was at least partly mutual and wholly circumstantial. I can't think of anyone I hate. Maybe there are people out there who hate me -- I don't know.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Because essentially, they could get hit by a car in six months time, and everything you've left unresolved will come back to haunt you. (xpost)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am angry after people confide in me during their times of crisis because I'm *smart* and then treat me like I'm *boring* when they're feeling better. Anger is an energy.

low whisper of night, Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(Sorry, that was addressing the person upthread, not you, in case there was any confusion.)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh thanks. I'm cutting you out of my life for that, Matt DC.

low whisper of night, Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

let's all cut each other out of our lives!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

kenan: yeah, i understand what you mean. i guess i'd like to think that effectively (if not explicitly) cutting someone out of your life (or vice-versa) wasn't a necessary aspect of breaking up. though my perhaps-wilfull maybe-naivete concerning this has got me into trouble a few times (including very recently as my post above recounts). i forget sometimes that a cooling off period is not just necessary even if it doesn't initially seem very "natural."

i've never had a friend (i.e. not a lover) cut me out of their life (or vice-versa). the worst that's happened is i've stopped talking to someone for a few days or weeks. i guess i've been lucky never to have a close friend take advantage of or abuse me.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

get rid of the "not" in the first paragraph above.

"i forget sometimes that a cooling off period is necessary..."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

For a moment I thought that "anger is an energy" were Fugazi lyrics. Somehow along the way I must have cut John Lydon out of my life!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it does sound a bit self-helpish doesn't it?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

most of the time I just drift away from people, which I'm pretty good at; about a year ago a friend cut me out of her life (since I'm a shitty friend, which, you know, true) after we'd been in a close friendship for about five years. v hurtful at first but, having seen her since, it's like knowing that I no longer have to be friends with her has given me free reign to think whatever I like about her. which is pretty refreshing. (i'd still defend her to anyone who criticised, though.)

box box box box box (cis), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Somehow along the way I must have cut John Lydon out of my life!

You'd be far from alone.

donut debonair (donut), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the best i ever felt around an old boyfriend was running into him in the street a couple of years after he dumped me. he was all chatty and shit, and 30 seconds into our meeting i realized "wow, i have NO interest in talking to him and nothing to say to him. fuck this, i'm outta here." i made some excuse and left.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I hating having to cut people out completely. It causes me no end of stress, even when it's for the best, because the emotional fallout often ends up hurting as badly as the relationship or friendship that's ending. The problem is that I'm essentially a sweet-natured person, and when I do have to be a dickhead to someone it's actually very shocking because it's so out of character.

It's funny this topic came up because there are two people who have really been plaguing my thoughts lately. One is someone I had a serious falling out with last year, and the other is someone that I need to cut out of my life STAT. Interesting times, these.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Cutting people off is classic. I have done it only for the extreme cases- people who just don't leave you alone. This week I cut off an immediate family member. The person constantly craves attention and ego inflation through putting other people down. For a long time until after I finished school I was dependent for things, so I had no choice about keeping contact with them. When I initiated contact instead of being solicited, or even acknowledged their expectations on me, that was a signal to start verbal abuse, attacking personal boundaries, and criticism over the distant past. Every single time I'm around this person I think "how the fuck can someone have such lack of care for other people's boundaries and feelings, and actually project the problem on other people." As soon as I could support myself I responded to calls less and less. Now I just told them "don't call me again until I invite you to." It was the last resort, but ignoring someone is the statement that can't be disregarded or twisted around. The calls continue but I screen them and don't respond. Now I wonder, after all the abuse they gave, why are they still so desperate for attention. I feel in a word vindicated.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 4 March 2005 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I've changed my tune on this, haven't I?

I had a policy of deliberately cutting exes out of my life. And every time I went against that policy, such horrible things would happen as to only remind me why I had the policy in the first place.

For the first time in my life, I went against my instincts and decided to maintain contact with an ex. And it was the best decision I had made all year, he's proved to be a source of support and strength and has done a lot to restore my faith in humanity and the male of the species. Then again, that says a great deal more about him than it does about me, perhaps.

So pick your cutting out decisions wisely, and not on the spur of an immediate emotional reaction.

Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 4 March 2005 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It takes effort to keep up with people when they're not around. But you've always managed to do it with the people who really matter to you.

Way I see it, there's a couple of people who were in my life who could stand to learn from this and stop using excuses and half-truths to escape this.

(More thoughts/experiences later)

BARMS, Friday, 4 March 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

people sure like putting their eggs in one basket!

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"cutting people completely out of your life"

yeah, my life would be so much easier were it not for people. i should do this!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 March 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

I had someone stand me up for a date and apparently do this out of the blue.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

she hate you

chaki, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:41 (eighteen years ago)


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