New James Bond = Daniel Craig.

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Also, this Daniel Craig guy seems to be thought of as "sexy" or "cool", but Bond needs to be "handsome" and a little bit old fashioned.

Again, i don't think this ever applied to Sean Connery

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't think Connery was "handsome"??? Also, he seemed to be surrounded by new and hip things but did not really take part in them.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't, either, and assume the same, as you, but it still v. doesn't follow, that they would think about doing a bond, like that

esp. with what they say about trying to be more true to the style/tone of the books

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― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course Connery is handsome but not in bland pretty-boy way like Pierce Brosnan or Roger Moore. Also, his Bond is a lot less glib and fairly dark and, even, sadistic.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

... which might be the Daniel Craig approach!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

RJG, I haven't seen Layer Cake, but I've assumed it's in the same sort of nu-british "guy" movie vein.

You should see it. I HATE HATE HATE!!! Guy Ritchie but Alex (who loves Guy Ritchie) talked me into seeing it and it was really good.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

it has a bad name or, maybe, just a really bad poster

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

guy ritchie should be set on fire

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Awwww. Be nice, Someone's got to look after Madonna.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm kind of coming around to this Daniel Craig idea. I mean, perhaps his nose was artificially pointed in Lara Croft the same way Jolie's breasts were, but still.

http://www.bluematia.com/snap96j.jpg

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoops, that was the wrong picture. My mistake.

http://www.hue.vnn.vn/dataimages/original/images68875_DanielCraig.jpg

And with ginger beard. Erm, nice!

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/07/craig_wideweb__430x279.jpg

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

it has a bad name or, maybe, just a really bad poster

WELCOME TO THE LAYER CAKE, SON

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to have an ashtray just like that, that I stole, from a hotel in the south of italy

I dropped it and it broke, a couple of years ago

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― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a shame, it's a nice ashtray.

In other photos he reminds me a bit more of Patrick McGoohan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/archangel/images/photogallery/340x255/kelso.jpg

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

also too young.

the main argument for casting him despite his relative "youthfulness" - i mean he's 37, not 25, y'know - is that Casino Royale, the "new" flick is set chronologically before Dr No - so he should be younger.

I think Mr Craig will be a perfectly good Bond. He was certainly the most interesting thing about Layer Cake by some margin, and it seems he can actually, y'know, act and stuff.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Craig is just too severe looking. Connery was sadistic yes, but didn't look like he had been beaten as a child like this guy.

That said, I will watch Layer Cake as my English coworker has actually lent me a copy this week.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I really like Brosnan, and felt like he did the best he could despite the last movies villain with the giant "Laser" and all the other ridiculous nonsense. Goldeneye is classic even without the N64 game! Famke.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't really understand the allure of Famke. Sorry.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

We sometimes have different tastes Adam, it's ok.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I may possibly feel threatened by tall women.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU ARE A LITTLE CRAZY MAN

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

INTIMIDATION IS HALF THE FUN

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I may be a LITTLE CRAZY MAN!

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/casino_royale/daniel_craig/royale1.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Looks like a gangster to me.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Why can't you just trust us?

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Even though Clive Owen looks rougher than Brosnan, I think he would have been perfect.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's "us"?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

That's a horrible picture and just waaaayyy reminding me of the Revolver ads that got taken down in my neighbourhood.

However, he's definitely beautiful and suave and lovely there. My goodness, is it hott in here?

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's "us"?

Me and anyone else who shares my viewpoint.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh you guys.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Just get a fucking man bag, Spencer -- its not like anyone takes you seriously now.

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

just give in and except Daniel fucking Craig, Spencer, it's not like anyone takes you seriously now anyway!

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

OH SHIT XPOST

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

ruined by me mysteriously typing "except" for "accept" what is wrong with me?

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

You're a vegan.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon I still don't get it and since you won't explain, well...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

He was kind of chubby, had longish blond hair and a pointy nose. Surprise, surprise there. He had a boat, too. Possibly also a girlfriend who was a ballerina? Or am I mixing up several bond villains here?

This is Klaus Maria Brandauer in Never Say Never Again. The girlfriend is Kim Basinger.

― it was a different shark (wetmink2), Friday, 14 October 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Who is still watching new Bond films anyway?

The ones from the 60s,70s, and 80s have a certain nostalgia value..

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 15 October 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I would have weighed in earlier but my brain was elsewhere. I like Living Daylights and to heck with complaints, as Dalton's Bond is the closest to the book version. The books -- riddled with any number of problems and shall we say 'curious' assumptions, especially in the light of fifty years on -- are somewhere between easygoing escapism and extremely dour pessimism, which actually explains why they work so well, the latter providing a surprisingly effective anchor for the former. Connery Bonds the best overall but I will always have a soft spot for For Your Eyes Only, the first one I ever saw and perhaps not coincedentally the closest Moore's Bond got to the literary version. The new guy being blonde is the biggest big of cognitive dissonance.

(see also Doctor Who FITEING Obi Wan Kenobi in Shallow Grave)

I should point out that in Velvet Goldmine we are now in retrospect rewarded with the sight of Obi-Wan taking Batman's anal cherry.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Heheh, 'biggest big' -- biggest BIT. Rah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 October 2005 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Saw Layer Cake last night, Craig will make a good Bond. He was actually playing an underworld Bond in that one - intelligent, classy, dark but sympathetic.

The Brosnan movies have gotten worse since GoldenEye. The one with Denise Richards was unwatchable and the Halle Berry movie had some special effects that wouldn't have looked good on a movie from 1985.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Saturday, 15 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I still think "underworld" is the key term here. He looks like a villain (seems like a nice guy in interviews though). Again, he should really have been cast as a rogue 00 agent.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Good luck, Daniel Craig. Do us proud.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

He was great in Munich, I think he'll do well as Bond.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The only downside to this thread - jed doesn't like Bond! >:(

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's playing Le Chiffre (the Orson Welles part) in this film?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think only Craig and Judi Dench have been confirmed.

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

long time since i read the book, but...

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe that the filming begins next week in the Bahamas. Three or so weeks there, then several months in Prague, then over to Pinewood for a week only sometime in June. Bah.

― Ella Megalast, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

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