Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

um, wow

Michael Madsen as a corrupt LAPD cop, maybe?

Question is going to be is he doing an Inglourious Basterds-style 'and that's how Hitler died' thing or something else.

I've heard of The Second Gunman, "Raoul" in Memphis, and Capricorn One, but Manson family not responsible for Sharon Tate's death a new one.

tbh this makes it sound way more interesting to me

O_o

it was Bill

Samuel L. Jackson did it

He never questioned whether or not the members carried the crime. Here's audio. (Starts around 12:30.) https://t.co/aGjXzLGu9v

— Lindsey Romain (@lindseyromain) July 14, 2017

hmmm...

His question is if Manson conspired to murder everyone except the victims at Cielo Dr. He's wondering if, in that one case, the family members committed the murders then informed Manson after the fact.

That is the dullest interpretation of these well-worn events I can imagine.

Well, he's just asking a question of the documentary director, not offering some fully worked-out interpretation. We don't know whether that's the basis of the movie.

ok so charlie has said stuff to that effect in the past, qt may just be finding out for himself how full of it charlie is

It's a stupid question.

cool doc bro but you are craaaaazy

I liked the Aquarius series on NBC (w/David Duchovny), which covered that scene and LA in general, but it looks like it's been cancelled.

― nickn, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 PM (three days ago)

this series is pretty good. It looks like they could wrap it up in one more season ... it would be sad if it got cancelled now, they hadn't gotten to the LaBiancas yet.

At least he's not making another Western. I sort of wish he'd make a film that didn't have a period setting. When was his last one set in the present day – Death Proof, if that counts?

Ok, I started watching Aquarius after the mentions in this thread. I remember hearing about the Rob Zombie series not getting picked up over it, but never checked it out. About 4 minutes into the show, a familiar bass line appears...The White Rabbit! Before I take this any further, can I get a confirmation from anyone as to how many times exactly White Rabbit will be played over the duration of the series?

That's funny. Even as a huge Jefferson Airplane fan, I've been saying for a while that all hippie-related movies have to ditch "White Rabbit," "Purple Have," and "For What It's Worth" forever, and start using things like the Mothers' "Trouble Every Day" instead.

The Purple Haves and Have-Nots.

I love White Rabbit. Hearing it in a TV show or movie almost always takes the scene down a couple points for me though.

Brilliant song that's been stripped bare. (Ditto "Somebody to Love.") There are 10 other Airplane songs just waiting there for anyone with a bit of imagination: "Mexico," "Blues from an Airplane," "Saturday Afternoon"...).

Wasn't Bobby Beausoleil one of the original members of Love?

yes

Is the documentary everyone is watching on YT the one made in 1972? Because that's the one I'm halfway through and wow.

I thought it said 1973 on the YT I played, but it's the one with Vincent Bugliosi talking in a courthouse and lots of self-shot footage of the family at their various locations. Some footage of Fromme, Goode, and one other (Krenwinkel?) in a dark room, each holding a rifle or shotgun. Some looks like it was shot before the murders, and some after.

Just checked, it does say 1972 on the first one I found (posted by SpainyB but I think I watched a different upload), but that's the one.

As for the Aquarius soundtrack, I feel the same way but I guess I'm better able to roll with that kind of easy reaching.

Starting to believe that a Tarantino movie about John Phillips (set against the Manson era) might actually work - holding off until the inevitable script leakage and tantrum.

I watched Valley of the Dolls the other day for the first time, it was p good... Sharon Tate had a very dated line that totally caught me off guard, talking to Neely O'Hara, complaining about her hairdresser: "Oh Neely, I wouldn't worry. You know how bitchy fags can be."

So anyway:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-wins-worldwide-rights-next-quentin-tarantino-film-1059385

A source tells The Hollywood Reporter that the Tarantino film has to make $375 million worldwide to break even.

jesus, did Django even make that much worldwide?

This is all going to be his origin story/tie-in for the entire Tarantino Cinematic Universe, you realize.

Sony Pictures has won the showdown for the right to finance and distribute Quentin Tarantino’s next movie, which has the working title #9.

The "working title" is encouraging, as it suggests that there is a small hope that he might not actually be doing this Manson thing, right?

xxpost just shy of $450m http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Django-Unchained#tab=summary

xp it's his ninth film & Manson connection = Revolution 9

Django was his (sorry) New Jersey.

They'll be hoping for Django size numbers rather than The Hateful Eight's $145m.

Word is that the Manson murders will be more a background element/'something in the air,' which strikes me as the smart way around it.

I am dreading this movie

seeing unconfirmed reports that Manson has died, thought that's what the bump was about here

reports about Manson dying are kind of perennial, i know he's in the hospital but this has happened like 12-14 times in my lifetime

lots of wishful thinking in the past, but fingers crossed this is the real deal

it'll be his Summer of Sam, except even worse

"Worse than Summer of Sam" would actually be quite an accomplishment in its own way.

So QT simply gets away with this sorry excuse? He knew about several cases, never said a damn thing, earned his bucks through him? Really?

why wouldn't he? isn't his core audience disproportionately men with little taste and judgment?

and me :)

that's a weird thing to say, I know a lot of female QT fans

well they may not be the core, they just have a warped idea of irony and don't understand Sergio Leone (like you).

Morbs, true. Srsly though if we're talking about burning it down, and I'm behind that, at the very least this weasily, opportune, talentless scumbag enabler shouldn't escape the purge.

"Worse than Summer of Sam" would actually be quite an accomplishment in its own way.

QT's made maybe 2 films that are better than Summer of Sam.