What are you refering to?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link
The Lillard interview linked above. His hysterical weeping scene this week was Bell's first scene in anything ever, apparently.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link
Ahhh thanks
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
Lillard is really good in this. I can't say I've ever noted him particularly.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
mh OTM
Get the feeling after Inland (one of his most improvised works) that there's no way Lynch would go back to linear shooting
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
It was his first scene of the day—and the first scene in which Chrysta Bell, who plays F.B.I. Agent Tammy Preston, had performed, outside of short films and TV movies. “She’d never been on set before,” Lillard said. “So you have an actress that’s like, ‘Hi, this is my first day of acting. . . This is my first scene that I’ve ever done.’”
Astonishing that it was Bell's first day on set, because watching the series - for me as a viewer - it really felt like they deliberately handed the interrogation to her, seeing she's been doing well, growing, earned Gordon's trust etc. I had these thoughts watching it, and convinced myself she upped her game, became a bigger factor in the show handling it as well as she did. Knowing now this was her first day, only affirms how good her acting has been. Because the second or third or fourth or whatever day came after that first shoot she had to act in "past tense", less knowledgeable or sure. That's good stuff.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link
I love Bell's body language. Her walking itself has so much character
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
tbf very few movies and shows are shot linearly, but the breakdown of what is going to appear in which episode (or where in the film a scene appears) can vary quite a bit depending on the directing/editing style. I don't think a lot of directors adhere completely to the original script, especially after viewing finished footage
― mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link
tbf very few movies and shows are shot linearly
yeah wtf this is not at all unusual
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link
the scheduling of shoots is dictated by a whole host of factors, none of which have anything to do with the narrative - location, availability of personnel, complexity of the shot, tech/crew/gear involved etc.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
ah i love being corrected on ILX
― Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
I think where Lynch may differ from some other directors is that he clearly didn't give cast members entire, complete scripts. With films that's pretty normal, and with TV often there's complete episode scripts because episodes may be shot discretely - but this isn't structured like a normal tv show. Lynch (and Frost) obviously had a bunch of scenes written and a general structure in mind, but then they shot it piecemeal as inspiration and necessity dictated, then took all the assembled footage and cut it together into the sequence we're seeing now.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link
(that's my guess anyway)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:58 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well yeah, of course I know this. Yeez guys. That wasn't my point. Point was that Bell acted really well making it seem she 'grabbed her chance' with the interrogation after what we've seen of her before, and us viewers now learning this was her first day on set.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
i actually find her acting really bad and am not surprised that she's basically a non-professional actor. real "actor in a post-war italian movie" vibes
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
Post-war Italian movies underrated imho :)
You really think she's "bad"?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
I don't think she's been given much to work with yet, but she is being deployed in an entertaining way imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, same. It's very "in character", but not "bad" imo.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link
xp. i find her body language awkward, her facial expressions affected, etc. i feel the performance is not really aligned with the qualities we usually look for in "good" acting imo. although many of the scenes have similar qualities in general and I'm sure lynch's direction is deliberate
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
i love that "drink full" being in the thread title is technically a spoiler but nobody knows what it fucking means anyway
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
call for help
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:14 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yeah and post-war italian movies are some of the best movies! i just found, when first watching them, that the non-professional acting combined with dubbed dialogue has a Verfremdungseffekt
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:17 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I get that. Lots of people not necessarily "good" acting wise on this show, but it's been that way with many other - Andy and Lucy - so it feels wholly deliberate from Lynch to me.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link
Bonus points for using "Verfremdungseffekt" :) I love that, and wouldn't be surprised if Lynch watched a lot of fifties/sixties Italian movies (I am binging on that particular era of Italian films right now)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
8pm is an extremely bad time for this show to air if they are moving it to that slot.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link
Having said that the show is going to be lucrative in terms of syndication and DVD, future streaming sales.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link
cb sux
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link
I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 July 2017 05:14 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
anyone who's hooked on twin peaks by now will probably stay there, especially after switching to GoT and realising most prestige tv is… not that good. shakey otm re stupider audience (disclaimer: not all GoT viewers are etc etc).
why would Showtime's competition be concerned anyway? GoT is a juggernaut, i doubt HBO's much concerned about what else happens to be airing at the time.
― circa1916, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:17 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah showtime seems to be on the twin peaks wagon for reputation/brand reasons more than anything. giving lynch money for 18 hours of television is self-evidently a risk.
I'm wondering if at some point we're gonna get Booper and Dougie in the same scene together tbh
― Οὖτις, Friday, 14 July 2017 06:13 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in a show where nothing is predictable and anything could (and does) happen, good & bad cooper sharing at least one shot is the only thing i would put money on.
booper is unquestionably a horrible coinage tbfttl
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:23 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otfm, it sounds like somebody should be tapping him gently on the nose
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinXXmy2Hno
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 01:24 (seven years ago) link
i really love how gordon (twice so far) has said "APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR ALBERT" after albert has said something terrible
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link
Wait, was was Lil's hand in the pocket and making a fist meant to mean? From FWWM.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link
You notice she had one hand in her pocket, which means they're hiding something; and the other hand made into a fist, which means they're gonna be belligerent.
"they" being the local authorities
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link
Ty AA
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 02:51 (seven years ago) link
Is "entered the zone" a reference to Stalker? Apologies if this has already been covered.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link
That's what Albert says in the morgue scene.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link
okayyyy just a couple quick things
the notion that HBO are being aggressive or whatever by airing GOT in that slot is bizarre. They've used that same timeslot for the last six years.
and no for a movie, it's totally normal to film stuff out of order. is IS weird for TV, though, and hammers home that Lynch really did plan and conceive it as an 18-hour movie.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:22 (seven years ago) link
Okay, is the fact that Matthew Lillard's wife got shot through the eye in her home just a major plot hole or what?
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link
I didn't realize that was GoT's usual timeslot. But that still doesn't account for those new promos which just feature one GoT performer after another saying 'fuck you, Twin Peaks' to the camera. Seems aggressive to me but what do I know.
― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:35 (seven years ago) link
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 13:31 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in what respect?
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:38 (seven years ago) link
It's just never been mentioned.
― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:43 (seven years ago) link
it was mentioned before the interrogation.
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:46 (seven years ago) link
or are you talking about the recurrence of the eye specifically?
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:47 (seven years ago) link
perhaps it's just because this whole show is chekhov's regional distribution warehouse
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link
Yeah Macklin mentioned it during the buckhorn csi season 1 recap along with the new details that George the lawyer was arrested and the secretary was murdered with a car bomb (admittedly we saw the setup to both of these things so neither is exactly surprising). It seems like the most significant parts of the buckhorn investigation were happening offscreen for us to be told-not-shown them later. It's funny, I called Westworld "a show where mystery means exposition that hasn't happened yet" but then the way this show handles eg the fact that Hastings is an occultist who went to another dimension then published a blog about it is like that in the extreme, but I'm like "yeah that's why it's good OBVIOUSLY"
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:06 (seven years ago) link
I mean this last episode had an honest to god irl "as you know"!
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:09 (seven years ago) link
heaps of part 9 was "as you know" in effect, which is the mean reason it's my least favourite episode to date.
I called Westworld "a show where mystery means exposition that hasn't happened yet"
i fully agree that it's happening in twin peaks. "remember that guy? who was crying seven episodes ago? and his wife died? that one? here's a billion crucial things we didn't tell you about him" isn't necessarily lazy, but i don't like being drawn out of the show by the showrunners going "wait, hi, oh hey here's some fish food, carry on, pretend i wasn't here"
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:18 (seven years ago) link
The fact that they waited 7 episodes before just telling us makes me like it better I think
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:29 (seven years ago) link
https://www.thekindland.com/culture/did-david-lynch-rip-off-neil-young-to-create-twin-1440
Obviously a hyperbolic statement, but having never seen Human Highway I'm curious whether there are any more than superficial similaritites.
― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Friday, 14 July 2017 08:35 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I'd like to see it but even my friends who are also big trans & devo fans don't seem to be that into it so I was never in a hurry to check it out
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 09:25 (seven years ago) link
still obsessed with 'shadow'
― nxd, Friday, 14 July 2017 10:38 (seven years ago) link