Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

This is a really ill advised project and Quentin Tarantino sucks.

This guy is nothing more than a culture fetishist. This is gross and I hope it bottoms out.

― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:33 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Correct

I wish he'd just do another Elmore Leonard movie :/

I think Longworth's podcast series underlined how much of an LA story the Manson Murders are: the habitual criminal with dreams of a rich easy life as a rockstar who tries to break into the music biz, ultimately rejected by the inner circle & then takes his horrific acid-fuelled revenge ... his pathetic motivations are pretty effectively buried under the flash-bang of his rhetoric & the entourage & the legitimately shocking, horrible murders

There's totally a Tarantino movie here.

or imo it could work in the way the Summer of Sam worked. It doesn't have to be ~about~ Manson directly

but i am also a qt apologist & true crime fan so obv my bias is distorting my judgement

otm

Just watched the 1:20 Manson on youtube, I had seen some of the 3-girls-with-guns footage before, but didn't know there was this much of the family in general. And damned if I'm not now watching the ABC 20/20 doc from March of this year (also 1:20). It's actually very watchable, not sensationalized as much as I feared (no John Stossel). Long segment on Sharon Tate, and some more recent interviews with some of the involved parties.

he's a culture garbageman, just a foot fetishist

taking that celebrity grade garbage to the dump where we hang out

omg wait who is going to play Sharon

surm... this could be your chance

Uma Thurman + CGI

lol <3 i can't think of anyone who could pull it off except like Amanda Seyfried

i can't put my finger on which movie villain or sci-fi character tarantino reminds me of here:

http://cdn4.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2017/07/quentin_tarantino_-_getty_-_h_2017.jpg

To cross reference with the threads dominating ILM atm:

http://images.brits.co.uk/images/pc618_thumb_940_528.jpg

http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5383/97/16x9/960.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1303/1180460296_37d174fc7d.jpg

saw a screening of a Manson doc at New Beverly. At Q&A, Tarantino inferred he doesn't believe Manson family killed Sharon Tate

— Adam Bozarth (@adambozarth) July 12, 2017

grammarians take note

oh christ

ok so i may be walking back my enthusiasm in future updates :/

That is very ominous if true. And suddenly makes me think there'll be a spot in the film for JFK Joe Pesci.

um, wow

Michael Madsen as a corrupt LAPD cop, maybe?

Question is going to be is he doing an Inglourious Basterds-style 'and that's how Hitler died' thing or something else.

I've heard of The Second Gunman, "Raoul" in Memphis, and Capricorn One, but Manson family not responsible for Sharon Tate's death a new one.

tbh this makes it sound way more interesting to me

O_o

it was Bill

Samuel L. Jackson did it

He never questioned whether or not the members carried the crime. Here's audio. (Starts around 12:30.) https://t.co/aGjXzLGu9v

— Lindsey Romain (@lindseyromain) July 14, 2017

hmmm...

His question is if Manson conspired to murder everyone except the victims at Cielo Dr. He's wondering if, in that one case, the family members committed the murders then informed Manson after the fact.

That is the dullest interpretation of these well-worn events I can imagine.

Well, he's just asking a question of the documentary director, not offering some fully worked-out interpretation. We don't know whether that's the basis of the movie.

ok so charlie has said stuff to that effect in the past, qt may just be finding out for himself how full of it charlie is

It's a stupid question.

cool doc bro but you are craaaaazy

I liked the Aquarius series on NBC (w/David Duchovny), which covered that scene and LA in general, but it looks like it's been cancelled.

― nickn, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 5:07 PM (three days ago)

this series is pretty good. It looks like they could wrap it up in one more season ... it would be sad if it got cancelled now, they hadn't gotten to the LaBiancas yet.

At least he's not making another Western. I sort of wish he'd make a film that didn't have a period setting. When was his last one set in the present day – Death Proof, if that counts?

Ok, I started watching Aquarius after the mentions in this thread. I remember hearing about the Rob Zombie series not getting picked up over it, but never checked it out. About 4 minutes into the show, a familiar bass line appears...The White Rabbit! Before I take this any further, can I get a confirmation from anyone as to how many times exactly White Rabbit will be played over the duration of the series?

That's funny. Even as a huge Jefferson Airplane fan, I've been saying for a while that all hippie-related movies have to ditch "White Rabbit," "Purple Have," and "For What It's Worth" forever, and start using things like the Mothers' "Trouble Every Day" instead.

The Purple Haves and Have-Nots.

I love White Rabbit. Hearing it in a TV show or movie almost always takes the scene down a couple points for me though.

Brilliant song that's been stripped bare. (Ditto "Somebody to Love.") There are 10 other Airplane songs just waiting there for anyone with a bit of imagination: "Mexico," "Blues from an Airplane," "Saturday Afternoon"...).

Wasn't Bobby Beausoleil one of the original members of Love?

yes

Is the documentary everyone is watching on YT the one made in 1972? Because that's the one I'm halfway through and wow.

I thought it said 1973 on the YT I played, but it's the one with Vincent Bugliosi talking in a courthouse and lots of self-shot footage of the family at their various locations. Some footage of Fromme, Goode, and one other (Krenwinkel?) in a dark room, each holding a rifle or shotgun. Some looks like it was shot before the murders, and some after.

Just checked, it does say 1972 on the first one I found (posted by SpainyB but I think I watched a different upload), but that's the one.

As for the Aquarius soundtrack, I feel the same way but I guess I'm better able to roll with that kind of easy reaching.

Starting to believe that a Tarantino movie about John Phillips (set against the Manson era) might actually work - holding off until the inevitable script leakage and tantrum.

I watched Valley of the Dolls the other day for the first time, it was p good... Sharon Tate had a very dated line that totally caught me off guard, talking to Neely O'Hara, complaining about her hairdresser: "Oh Neely, I wouldn't worry. You know how bitchy fags can be."

So anyway:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-wins-worldwide-rights-next-quentin-tarantino-film-1059385

A source tells The Hollywood Reporter that the Tarantino film has to make $375 million worldwide to break even.

jesus, did Django even make that much worldwide?