didn't mean to imply I was addressing yr personal experience anyway, just noting that my introduction to these items corresponded to Alfred's in timing/venue
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:19 (eight years ago)
because there are fancy places in that realm but they're still few and far between
in New York
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:20 (eight years ago)
(which, last time I checked, generally has total garbage Mexican food - so maybe Brooks got what he deserved: a shitty lunch)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:21 (eight years ago)
in most places!
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:21 (eight years ago)
lol "most" you wanna poll some states
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:22 (eight years ago)
So would our terrified friend have been soothed by a simple explanation like "it's salami with tomato on bread"?
― Moodles, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:19 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think Brooks' description of his friend's demeanor was horrible but that is maybe the implication here, that he was too lazy to say this, or he had no idea himself
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:23 (eight years ago)
there's great Mexican food in West St Paul now thanks to immigration
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:23 (eight years ago)
CA, WA, OR, NM, AZ, NV, CO, TX, FL, IL = p big swathe of the country imo (and I'm probably leaving out some states just cuz I've never actually visited + eaten fancy mexican food in them)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:24 (eight years ago)
there are a few threads where we've gotten into it, but the places able to charge higher rates for authentic mexican cuisine run into the same cost/authenticity/lineage questions that lead us to bringing up Rick Bayless and it's a related but different issue
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:26 (eight years ago)
eh I'm not touching the "authenticity" debate aspect
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:27 (eight years ago)
Haaaaa
http://www.avclub.com/article/explaining-david-brooks-column-stupid-coworker-who-257938
As I explained to my grateful, greasy compatriot then—and as David Brooks so finely elucidated for us now—it was not their fault that the nation’s deeply entrenched class divisions fostered by systems built on institutionalized racism and economic disparity have left them so feeling marginalized. They just need to pull themselves by their Wonder Bread bags, stop eating gas station nachos, and get hip to David Foster Wallace, because that’s what’s really standing in their way
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 20:42 (eight years ago)
the plot thickens pic.twitter.com/dHEDsPXPIG— KRANG T. NELSON (@KrangTNelson) July 11, 2017
― André Ryu (Neil S), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)
which one of you is krang t nelson
― André Ryu (Neil S), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 21:23 (eight years ago)
that paragraph is pretty stupid but i'm surprised at the huge reaction to this
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)
not I, although he gets much respect for his antics
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)
exactly^^ brooks conflates regional differences w/class distinctions
― busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:37 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark
i think this is right. fwiw is this the menu of the best hoagie shop in the philly area:
http://i.imgur.com/Wc47x3A.png
http://www.thesiciliandeli.com/id10.html
they have a big NRA sticker on their front door and didn't take cards until like a year ago. i think most of the big hoagie shops in philly specify which cold cuts. i still don't know the difference between soprasetta and gobbagool or w/e fwiw
― 龜, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:50 (eight years ago)
I can't even begin to explain how much better Mexican food is in the Twin Cities than it was 20 yrs ago.- full disclosure: mediocre college educated (4 yr degree, state school), have read Infinite Jest, did not know those particular sandwich meats
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:59 (eight years ago)
now that's how you make a menu
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:03 (eight years ago)
xpost -- I gather all you had then were various Taco Johns.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:06 (eight years ago)
c’mon man, we had Chi-Chis by then
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:07 (eight years ago)
(at first I misread that as Tasty Tacos and was confused since that’s a long-running local chain that you’d have to visit here to know. also, I ate lunch there)
― mh, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:10 (eight years ago)
I miss the Mexican food on lake st so bad sometimes.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:12 (eight years ago)
you can get capicola at frickin jimmy johns
― j., Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:26 (eight years ago)
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/wj8gmx/italian-meats-arent-ruining-american-education
― mh, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 00:54 (eight years ago)
account of friend's horror needs more gabbagool
― calstars, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:14 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHFRYVxhd8
― calstars, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:20 (eight years ago)
― mh, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:07 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jejejeje tu mamá tiene chichis
― nice cage (m bison), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:22 (eight years ago)
indeed
― mh, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:44 (eight years ago)
Gotta love talkin’ about David Brooks online. :-)
― the ghost of markers, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:52 (eight years ago)
As always respect 2 dayo 4 repping gloco's finest
― layda be cry (los blue jeans), Thursday, 13 July 2017 11:56 (eight years ago)
Theory: Brooks has begun elevating his "thought pieces" into edgy, meta-level performance art since marrying his intern. Like Andy Kaufman.— D (@hereticalstoic) July 18, 2017
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)
Comparing Brooks to Andy Kaufman is offensive in any context, ironic or not
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:44 (eight years ago)
True. Brooks has made me laugh more than once. Kaufman, never.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:59 (eight years ago)
good impression of brooks imo
― qualx, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)
they've both been mostly dead since 1984
― a brief spurt of enthusiasm (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 22:09 (eight years ago)
This is not a party that’s going to produce a lot of modern-day versions of Jack Kemp.
God bless David Brooks that he intends this as a criticism.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 21 July 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)
Nice bit about Brooks-types(like Josh Barro and the Hamburger Problem):
https://thebaffler.com/the-jaundiced-eyeball/more-mush-from-the-taste-police
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Saturday, 22 July 2017 00:39 (eight years ago)
It is, at any rate, a cinch that the prescription of first resort for professional prognosticators of our national politics is this peculiar pundit brand of mind-cure. In this backward-spooling cosmology of our public life, the more stubborn and deep-seated challenges of structural reform, painstaking political organizing, and demanding long-term strategizing yield magisterially to the modulations of attitude, taste, and Zeitgeist fealty that the Vox Populi supposedly demands from its pundit class and the allied liberal cognoscenti.
who the fuck thinks this is writing
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 July 2017 20:53 (eight years ago)
it certainly is a lot, of, words
― j., Saturday, 22 July 2017 21:18 (eight years ago)
david brooks actually cracked me up on the news hour on friday. he called trump an anti-mentor. everyone he helps becomes worse. his whole trump thing was good actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3MXqcoPkMM
― scott seward, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:57 (eight years ago)
lol that was funny
― flappy bird, Sunday, 23 July 2017 04:28 (eight years ago)
http://pinstor.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/antimonitor.jpg
― Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Sunday, 23 July 2017 05:45 (eight years ago)
/pol/ with a graduate degree has logged on. pic.twitter.com/cvlZtPfHRQ— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) August 1, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:33 (eight years ago)
800+ words on manliness and what the greeks would think of today's masculine ideals, somehow no mention of the fact that in ancient greece men loved to fuck each other
― the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:40 (eight years ago)
thats pretty manly
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:41 (eight years ago)
too manly for brooks, clearly
― the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:41 (eight years ago)
the greeks were pro-gay sex, anti-gay marriage
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:50 (eight years ago)
brooks is terrible but he had a line on tv the other week (after spicer quit?) about trump being an "anti-mentor" that was good
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:00 (eight years ago)
8 posts up
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:06 (eight years ago)
ah yes that's probably where i saw it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:13 (eight years ago)