RIP David Brooks

actually I think we did get soppressata on occasion but never called it anything other than "dry salami"

^^^^^ this rings very true; my take was that there were many different types of salami but they were all called "salami" and it was kind of mindblowing to realize that they all had names I'd never learned

hey I only learned about capicola after working at Miami Subs in the early '90s.

yeah this stuff was on chain deli menus in the early 90s

and we NEVER sold it. One time the manager put in an order for 14 capicola subs to fuck with us.

yeah this stuff was on chain deli menus in the early 90s

... where you grew up. They were hardly any chain delis where I grew up, let alone any with this stuff on the menu.

AND in the early 90s I was a broke college student who ate a good 99% of his meals on campus, so there was little-to-no opportunity for me to find a deli with this stuff on the menu.

There was a local sandwich place I used to go to in Back Bay that had an Italian sub with bunch of this stuff on it but I never knew what any of it was and, when I looked at the sandwich, it all looked like salami so I categorized it all as "salami" and stopped trying to sub-categorize.

there was a chain deli on my campus and I worked there but yes I did not live everywhere in the US

I mean, the mexican place thing is a red herring for classist shit, too, because there are fancy places in that realm but they're still few and far between

Nobody is going to pass a quiz on the differences between Oaxaca cheese and asadero before they get their tacos

So would our terrified friend have been soothed by a simple explanation like "it's salami with tomato on bread"?

didn't mean to imply I was addressing yr personal experience anyway, just noting that my introduction to these items corresponded to Alfred's in timing/venue

xp

because there are fancy places in that realm but they're still few and far between

in New York

(which, last time I checked, generally has total garbage Mexican food - so maybe Brooks got what he deserved: a shitty lunch)

in most places!

lol "most" you wanna poll some states

So would our terrified friend have been soothed by a simple explanation like "it's salami with tomato on bread"?

― Moodles, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:19 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think Brooks' description of his friend's demeanor was horrible but that is maybe the implication here, that he was too lazy to say this, or he had no idea himself

there's great Mexican food in West St Paul now thanks to immigration

CA, WA, OR, NM, AZ, NV, CO, TX, FL, IL = p big swathe of the country imo (and I'm probably leaving out some states just cuz I've never actually visited + eaten fancy mexican food in them)

xp

there are a few threads where we've gotten into it, but the places able to charge higher rates for authentic mexican cuisine run into the same cost/authenticity/lineage questions that lead us to bringing up Rick Bayless and it's a related but different issue

eh I'm not touching the "authenticity" debate aspect

Haaaaa

http://www.avclub.com/article/explaining-david-brooks-column-stupid-coworker-who-257938

As I explained to my grateful, greasy compatriot then—and as David Brooks so finely elucidated for us now—it was not their fault that the nation’s deeply entrenched class divisions fostered by systems built on institutionalized racism and economic disparity have left them so feeling marginalized. They just need to pull themselves by their Wonder Bread bags, stop eating gas station nachos, and get hip to David Foster Wallace, because that’s what’s really standing in their way

the plot thickens pic.twitter.com/dHEDsPXPIG

— KRANG T. NELSON (@KrangTNelson) July 11, 2017

which one of you is krang t nelson

that paragraph is pretty stupid but i'm surprised at the huge reaction to this

not I, although he gets much respect for his antics

exactly^^ brooks conflates regional differences w/class distinctions

― busy bee starski (m coleman), Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:37 PM (six hours ago) Bookmark

i think this is right. fwiw is this the menu of the best hoagie shop in the philly area:

http://i.imgur.com/Wc47x3A.png

http://www.thesiciliandeli.com/id10.html

they have a big NRA sticker on their front door and didn't take cards until like a year ago. i think most of the big hoagie shops in philly specify which cold cuts. i still don't know the difference between soprasetta and gobbagool or w/e fwiw

I can't even begin to explain how much better Mexican food is in the Twin Cities than it was 20 yrs ago.

- full disclosure: mediocre college educated (4 yr degree, state school), have read Infinite Jest, did not know those particular sandwich meats

now that's how you make a menu

xpost -- I gather all you had then were various Taco Johns.

c’mon man, we had Chi-Chis by then

(at first I misread that as Tasty Tacos and was confused since that’s a long-running local chain that you’d have to visit here to know. also, I ate lunch there)

I miss the Mexican food on lake st so bad sometimes.

you can get capicola at frickin jimmy johns

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/wj8gmx/italian-meats-arent-ruining-american-education

account of friend's horror needs more gabbagool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EHFRYVxhd8

c’mon man, we had Chi-Chis by then

― mh, Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:07 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jejejeje tu mamá tiene chichis

indeed

Gotta love talkin’ about David Brooks online. :-)

As always respect 2 dayo 4 repping gloco's finest

Theory: Brooks has begun elevating his "thought pieces" into edgy, meta-level performance art since marrying his intern. Like Andy Kaufman.

— D (@hereticalstoic) July 18, 2017

Comparing Brooks to Andy Kaufman is offensive in any context, ironic or not

True. Brooks has made me laugh more than once. Kaufman, never.

good impression of brooks imo

they've both been mostly dead since 1984

This is not a party that’s going to produce a lot of modern-day versions of Jack Kemp.

God bless David Brooks that he intends this as a criticism.

Nice bit about Brooks-types(like Josh Barro and the Hamburger Problem):

https://thebaffler.com/the-jaundiced-eyeball/more-mush-from-the-taste-police

It is, at any rate, a cinch that the prescription of first resort for professional prognosticators of our national politics is this peculiar pundit brand of mind-cure. In this backward-spooling cosmology of our public life, the more stubborn and deep-seated challenges of structural reform, painstaking political organizing, and demanding long-term strategizing yield magisterially to the modulations of attitude, taste, and Zeitgeist fealty that the Vox Populi supposedly demands from its pundit class and the allied liberal cognoscenti.

who the fuck thinks this is writing

it certainly is a lot, of, words

david brooks actually cracked me up on the news hour on friday. he called trump an anti-mentor. everyone he helps becomes worse. his whole trump thing was good actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3MXqcoPkMM

lol that was funny

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/pol/ with a graduate degree has logged on. pic.twitter.com/cvlZtPfHRQ

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) August 1, 2017