brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

GIdeon's editorial in the standard today was a somewhat entertaining plea to David Davis to knife May this week - along the lines of 'I hate you, but I hate theresa more'

am I right in thinking that this did use to be a fairly commonly used phrase? the only time I've ever heard it used irl was by a guy who was around 90, who immediately corrected himself. (Morris is only 60 which seems like it would make it difficult to employ any "they're from a different era" type defense)

it was a common phrase in Britain

there was an old guy who accidentally said it on jeremy vine about 7 or 8 years ago. was an incredibly awkward bit of radio.

2007, Bedfordshire County counciller Rhys Goodwin, stepped down as chairman of the environment and economic development committee: "...During a debate on heavy goods vehicle traffic in the county, he wanted to argue that a particular problem in Bedfordshire is the amount of trucks on the roads connected with quarrying. But he used the unfortunate figure of speech before sheepishly rephrasing his point.'[8]
Goodwin, who was 74 at the time, said: "There was no racist intent at all. For 50 years of my life that was common parlance, with no more a derogatory connotation than the symbol on a jar of marmalade."[9]

2008, Lord Dixon Smith, Conservative frontbencher, used the phrase in a debate on the Housing and Regeneration Bill: "Of course, the nigger in the woodpile, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has already pointed out, is that it still incorporates what I call the hangover of the new towns legislation." He immediately apologised to the House. His Lordship, also in his seventies, later commented to journalists that the phrase had been "in common parlance when I was younger".[10]

2009, Dick Denby, of Dick Denby Transport uttered this phrase on the BBC Radio 2 Jeremy Vine show (Tuesday, 1 December) during a discussion on the merits of 83 foot long HGV's. To his credit he did say that perhaps he should not have used said phrase. Jeremy Vine agreed he should not have used it and later apologised to Radio 2 listeners who might have been offended.

they will get a frisson of pleasure from using it, as if it was some minor act of rebellion against progressive forces. she knew what she was doing. it’s hard to imagine even the most numb-witted throwback not caveating it with a “i know it’s not a word we’re supposed to use nowadays” sort of gesture. it’ll be in that context that she used it.

it was a common phrase in Britain

I've never heard anyone say it. I've heard people say a lot worse mind you.

I am, after all, from the town that used to produce the aforementioned marmalade with the symbol on it.

had a school pal whose parents (in their late 60s/early 70s in the late 90s/early 2000s) had a collection of robertson's memorobilia. :|

Fizzles otm. The way she says it so fast makes it clear that it was totally predetermined... I'll say that really fast and no one will be sure if they heard right.

I've never heard anyone say it. I've heard people say a lot worse mind you.

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 10 July 2017 19:18 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^

Mind you I did learn the original version of eenie meenie as a child

So, I'm living a block away from the Charlie Gard media circus, which is a heady cocktail of evangelicals from America circling like vultures, tons of rubberneckers/vigil people, and (late last week) Nigel Farage doing vox pops not an hour after I'd bagged my friend's dog's poo on the same spot. That's gotta be a missed opportunity (FARAGE: 'WHO FLUNG DUNG?')

a missed plopportunity there, suzy. Espesh if he was wearing the union jack loafers!

do you think that Brendan O'Neill ever gets bored writing the same article over and over again?

http://i.imgur.com/jAoIiwf.png

scary that a Tory MP should be suspended for being a racist

funny how the tories are all in favour of bleating endlessly about the vital importance of personal responsibility but seem oddly reticent to accept responsibility when they shit the bed

brendan o'neill must be new to the website twitter dot com cuz i can think of shitloads of 'twitch-hunts' considerably more severe than people telling an mp that it's not cool to use the n-word in public discourse

get back to me when she's being swatted or forced out of her home or having nude pictures shared

It's odd about this phrase - though I have heard it, I have never even actually known what it meant. It is an odd one for her to choose to use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMBDL2qjQ1Y

where's the clamour this morning from our 4th estate for a root and branch investigation into racism in the conservative party

I agree.

Very awkward video. Impressed by Crooksy - his poise in general and his continued poise in rising above that phrase.

It seemed more like a sad acceptance of casual racism to me, like letting it slide again and containing the hurt + anger because one isn't permitted to challenge bigoted old Ingland leg on live tv, and one must know one's place.

It's more than a bad analogy.

Clearly, the simile being applied is the "anti-brexit" or "soft brexit" or whatever is being similarised as the "N***", because they both are that thing that "no-one wants but is being sneaked in" or some such. in the woodpile.

No wonder no-one's defending her, apart from RL Journos.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DESQC6HWsAEP2vP.jpg

that troubling face of Matt Chorley again, he looks like some bumptious + spam-faced arsehole of a Hogarth character. Could picture that face in an 18th c fright wig as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/473922198197899265/QnRhQ1A-_400x400.jpeg

don't u dare slander the honourable Alfred E Neuman this way!

Ha, he just reminded me of him, but you're right, it's nto fair to A.

Oh my god pic.twitter.com/uBQHCDONe9

— Frank Sobotka (@cymrurouge) July 11, 2017

imaging rupert typing the exclamatory delete tweet is fun

Does Chorley not remember that governments subsidized mortgage-holders for years thru MIRAS? Or did he think that was a bad thing?

Rupert, Rupert My-ers
Everyone knows he's lame
Rupert, Rupert My-ers
Everyone come and laugh, at all his bad takes

Another one for Rupert to stand next to:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40574754

I like how this charmer is trying to present a defence that his normally behind closed doors racist speak becomes satire when aired on a public forum.

Brexit means Brexit:The Unofficial Version on the iplayer is schadenfreude 101.

Final thoughts: I can't remember the last time i saw an MP go utterly full-frontal at the council, esp if they belong to the same party.

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 12, 2017

in this Chakrabortty thread it sounds like Lammy is really having a go of opposing the HDV.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/student-fees-control-time-stopped-sending-children-university/

As part of their generous general election offer, the Labour Party said that ditching university tuition fees would cost £11.2 billion. Well, so now they’ve had a bit of a play around on the Diane Abbott Special Needs Abacus, and it turns out it would actually cost nearer £100 billion, if they carry out their latest "ambition" to cancel out all historic student loans.

should probably have posted that in the "insane conservative commentators" thread

"Diane Abbott Special Needs Abacus"

Never mind getting lambasted on Twitter, people using this type of grotesque hate-speak are short of a fucking good shoeing.

I Don't Know How She Does It!

Fuck that social-climbing bigot Allison Pearson.

how pundits can while their lives away debating online abuse in good faith without having an aneurysm is beyond me

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEkeLKsWAAAWs_b.jpg
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to witness those "fucking useless plotters" moderate cru, watching their plan completely unravel on election. Even more so than the Tories.

"..party staff who still expected a Tory landslide began to implement the Admiral Canaris-style coup to remove the Corbynator.."

*election night, I meant to say.

oh, owen paws...

Thanks to all across Belfast who welcomed me to the 12th celebrations yesterday. Well done to all who helped events pass off so peacefully.

— Owen Smith (@OwenSmith_MP) July 13, 2017

Jesus. First ferry from Larne, get him out of there as quickly as possible.

no way they can clear that great repeal bill surely? must be counting on the calculation they'll stay safe as a govt due to the FTPA... a govt of no authority helmed by a leader of no authority tho...

this guy

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/15/brexit-followed-by-corbyn-put-uk-flat-on-back-tony-blair

I heard the cringe-worthy Robinson "grilling" of Blair earlier, him and Geldof should charter a boat or something.

Everyone's fave cartoon fascist Rees-Mogg has been back pedalling after it was revealed he was an after dinner speaker guest of the pro-Nazi Traditional Britain group.

apparently Hammond told a meeting, at which T May was present, that trains are so modern now that "even a woman can drive them"

i guess economies are so modern now that even a cro-magnon idiot can run them eh? or actually... maybe not

I assume Blair still has party membership and I'm not sure why he hasn't been expelled yet

I can see why even May put Spreadsheet Phil on ice during the election campaign, now.

Blair's word for maintaining the neolib consensus is "sensible politics". Does the pitiful motherfucker actually believe anyone is listening to him?