The Simpsons "punched down" all the time and its widely considered one of the funniest shows ever made so there
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:23 (nine years ago)
Richard Spencer getting punched was funny, but I think that was a straight ahead shot, not up or down
― sarahell, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:24 (nine years ago)
I only punch down to hit smurfs
― President Keyes, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:25 (nine years ago)
you're not allowed to call them that.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:30 (nine years ago)
i don't care if they're black, white, or blue ...
― sarahell, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:34 (nine years ago)
I believe the politically correct term is 'testicles'.
― Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:37 (nine years ago)
One smurf can call another smurf "smurf," but otherwise Neanderthal is right.
― gin and chronic (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:41 (nine years ago)
Only if the smurf calling the other smurf smurf is of a lower smurf caste iirc
― quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:44 (nine years ago)
physical abuse is never the answer regardless of how you do it and to whom you're doing it to if you ask me
lots of sexists, classists and racists on ilx tbh
― i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:53 (nine years ago)
no rockists though
― President Keyes, Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:54 (nine years ago)
I would punch the shit out of a rock, tbh.
― Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 July 2017 18:55 (nine years ago)
Rockists need to start their own country because they are drowning in the new age with no one to save them but themselves.
― the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 6 July 2017 19:52 (nine years ago)
What the hell is going on
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 7 July 2017 06:22 (eight years ago)
Trayce otm
― wtev, Friday, 7 July 2017 06:25 (eight years ago)
"it is what it is."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 9 July 2017 23:15 (eight years ago)
especially at the end of the day
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 9 July 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)
"this click could change the rest of your clicks"
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Sunday, 9 July 2017 23:40 (eight years ago)
To be fair...
― wtev, Monday, 10 July 2017 06:49 (eight years ago)
I don't like "bucket list" anyway, but I really, really hate it when people use it in the context of "stuff I want to do this summer." (i.e. I just saw someone post on FB about their "2017 bucket list.") The entire original context was STUFF YOU WANT TO DO BEFORE YOU KICK THE BUCKET.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 10 July 2017 13:52 (eight years ago)
Interesting discussion about comedy.
I think I'm on board with Mordy's point that we shouldn't confuse 'whether this joke makes us laugh' with 'whether we should laugh at this joke'. (Have I parsed this properly?)
What seems to be hovering in the background is the idea of the 'sick joke' - a type of joke we shouldn't laugh at, but which we will have to laugh at, because it's inherently funny. I'm wondering if such a perfectly funny joke exists - one that's guaranteed to make us laugh. Or whether the actual physical thing of laughing, the literal movement of muscles and mouth on picking up a joke through the ears, etc, whether what will cause that is not inherent but relative.
^ Terrible phrasing there but that's about as close as I can get to what I wanna ask.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 10 July 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
It seems like a crucial thing to try and work out if we were going to make a decision about how, when and where people should laugh, if there should be penalties for laughing at any point, and so on. Because if some things just make all humans everywhere laugh involuntarily then ... but if on the other hand human laughter is programmed/(re)programmable, then ...
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 10 July 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)
That joke is in the first category
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2017 15:38 (eight years ago)
If there is a third category, it's the joke that mainly makes us laugh because we know it is in the second category
We thought the banana peel gag was universally funny until we thought about the implications of imperialism.
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 July 2017 16:46 (eight years ago)
It's been mentioned already but I keep seeing "virtue signalling" everywhere now and it seems to mean "not being a cunt".
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 10 July 2017 21:02 (eight years ago)
no, it means ostentatiously demonstrating that you are a "good one" for the appreciation of others. pretty much all callout culture is "virtue signaling" since yelling at someone on twitter has yet in history to produce any effect beyond self-aggrandizement.
― Mordy, Monday, 10 July 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)
Uh think you'll find Gandhi yelled at Britain on Twitter that time embarrassed 4u
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2017 21:25 (eight years ago)
as a phrase it can be used correctly and incorrectly but it should be useful for everyone. virtue signalling can noise and distraction to a the forwarding of cause. it may prompt a response from the other side that will be equally as aggressive. it can be counter productive to a real honest open dialog.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 10 July 2017 21:33 (eight years ago)
I've been seeing it recently as the newest version of calling someone a social justice warrior.
― Hilarity Winner (doo dah), Monday, 10 July 2017 22:50 (eight years ago)
I'm kind of amazed "woke" hasn't been taken away by the alt-right and firmly associated with them yet.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 July 2017 22:58 (eight years ago)
It's so ridiculous and delicious that the right probably think it's best left where it is I'd say
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 10 July 2017 23:01 (eight years ago)
lol I see "woke" more often used as a term of mockery than sincerity
― Mordy, Monday, 10 July 2017 23:07 (eight years ago)
'Woke' has lost all sincerity, if it had it to begin with, a long time ago
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 10 July 2017 23:12 (eight years ago)
I've never seen "woke" used positively. Not even in the way people will call themselves a social justice warrior jokingly.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 July 2017 23:33 (eight years ago)
― Hilarity Winner (doo dah), Monday, 10 July 2017 23:50 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is of course what I was talking about but thanks for patronisingly explaining what it means like I'm some kind of fucking moron.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 06:52 (eight years ago)
You noticed that too.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 07:15 (eight years ago)
Well, sorry, that wasn't what I meant at all. Apparently I am stupid.
― Hilarity Winner (doo dah), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 11:21 (eight years ago)
Sorry doo dah, that wasn't directed at you!
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 11:41 (eight years ago)
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2016/07/woke-baes-bracket
― nachismo (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 11:45 (eight years ago)
the right has definitely seized on "virtue signalling" in the uk, to the point of it being almost unusable if you don't want to seem like someone aligned with them. do feel we need a phrase to describe some of the egotistical humblebrag attempts at progressive behaviour that twitter throws up. the amount of, for example, creepy male feminists patronisingly praising women all day or even retweeting posts that bemoan the behaviour of men - that's a pretty good example - someone acting as if talking a lot about other people's suffering means they aren't a member of a privileged group of society. which isn't to say don't talk about it but maybe don't assume you're part of the solution, imo.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 11:55 (eight years ago)
to the point of it being almost unusable if you don't want to seem like someone aligned with them
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:55
I hate how much of an issue this has become. People have become way too presumptuous. Just going back a few years ago I see people using all sorts of terms that they wouldn't touch today, not because they're horrible but because the shitty right uses them more.
"Cuck" is about the only recent term that makes me fairly confident the person using it is a total jerk if they're using it unironically.
Wokebraggery is the best I've come up with.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:26 (eight years ago)
But really, it's probably best if all these standard insults are avoided.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:28 (eight years ago)
Everything becomes tarnished so quickly and Donald Trump will be calling people "woke" eventually.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:35 (eight years ago)
do feel we need a phrase to describe some of the egotistical humblebrag attempts at progressive behaviour
in fact, the left invented just such a phrase. it is "politically correct". good luck finding any gentle self-deprecation ever among left-ish political bedfellows that that will not be weaponized immediately by the whining entitled hordes of right-wing bullshittery
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:35 (eight years ago)
why doesn't this work the other way, you ask? why doesn't the left have this facility for turning the right's self-deprecation on itself? because they are not reflective enough to deprecate themselves in the first place!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:37 (eight years ago)
There's "cuckservative" but that's complaining that some conservatives are too liberal and its completely disgusting.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:45 (eight years ago)
because demonizing the right and their methods is too useful. it provides a boogeyman to market during election cycles. it helps avoid self-reflection on how the left is complicit in an oppressive system. it promotes the divide and conquer mentality. a bunch of other reasons too.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:46 (eight years ago)
there are many factional disputes in conservatism, with lots of hilarious newly coined words used to described enemies, but since they all look like the same assholes to me (us) it's hard to discern.
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:48 (eight years ago)
"describe"
yeah i mean maybe it's different but in the uk recently i've seen people use "virtue-signalling" to denounce those highlighting the injustice of the grenfell tower fire, among other watershed uses. i feel the same way about "social justice warrior" - there are mild and frivolous instances of people behaving in a silly manner in the name of social justice but if ever i hear "social justice warrior" in person the discussion the user is instigating quickly starts to spiral into other faintly alt-right places, like shades of men's rights or whatever.
what scares me about this is i've noticed it in some ostensibly normal friends of friends types who come across as left-leaning, and it's like wherever they get their news and info all this damaging coded language is creeping in, and they themselves seem to have no idea that the person across the table this codes as alt-right, or on the spectrum towards it.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 13:21 (eight years ago)