brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

I have now looked into this material and there is more ABSOLUTE BOY CORBYN material out there than I thought.

How about:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-absolute-boy-meme-sexism-womens-rights-labour-party-a7818431.html

I thin this article is very bad. Sample:

"It might have been endearing if the term “absolute boy” had been used to describe Justin Trudeau, who made half of his cabinet female, or Barack Obama, who passed equal pay legislation, or even Tony Blair, who for his (oh so many) sins did double maternity pay and introduce paid paternity leave during his time as Prime Minister. But Corbyn has proven over and over again that gender inequality in Britain is nowhere near a priority in his mind."

[*think]

When I used to be a betting shop manager in a shop with mostly Afro-Caribbean punters, one really argumentative punter used to often call me "lollipop boy" if he was pissed off with me. It was probably meant as a grave insult, but I thought it was pretty funny!

I did not write that post well. It should have started something like 'I have now looked into this question again'.

The article is bad though.

Here is another:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/09/corbyn-memes-wot-won-it-some-of-the-best

'Lollipop Boy' is on my forthcoming orange flexidisc of buzzsaw guitar pop.

Gonna need clarification on whether that's for his kids or

he went fucking canvassing with his nanny, the prick

I can remember hearing him on AQ around the time Trump was elected, and he was chirpily talking up what fabulous trade deals we could have with the US post-brexit. He is definitely an over-educated idiot and his contrived genteel Brit posturing is as hackneyed as a teacup full of stale piss with a "keep calm .." slogan on the cup.*

*I probably nicked that from Stewart Lee, but it seems correct.

the absolute female adult human

The very idea that you can be a feminist who approves wars of aggression and does not oppose austerity is completely mind-boggling to me. It's an aesthetics of feminism which fetishises certain kinds of representation. It is an obsession with women in boardrooms. Trudeau is entirely literate in a meme-ready version of feminism which is all about making images of "diversity," but to me, even on its own meagre terms I wonder how this almost dynastic appointment of the prince charming president furthers the cause of women. There is something about Trudeau that really gives me hives.

I would have thought that improving the conditions of care and medical support staff (overwhelmingly female) or carers (same) could only really be understood as feminist issues, but these are easy to ignore if you are living in a way that is untouched by concerns related to social care, disability payments, and indeed many of the other issues related to the slashing of benefits and the outsourcing their administration. It depresses me that a completely incurious pundit class applauds glass-ceiling gestures but is seemingly blind to the questions that directly effect the lives of many more women. It's especially annoying, because the greater level of support for Corbyn among women shows that women do understand this, it is just rarely reflected in the media, further revealing the class disconnect between commentators and broader population. Precarity, austerity and health are important feminist issues. Who needs better maternity pay when you're on a zero hours contract? Who cares that there's a lady PM when she's slashing social protections for women?

^^gibberish, sorry

You can be anything tho

xp
I was agreeing with a lot of your post there plax. Trudeau is a slimeball and austerity has statistically hit woman harder, but a large portion of (female ones as well) various tossers of the commentariat - don't seem to want to acknowledge this fact.

When I went to France I kept hearing "people think Macron is like Trudeau, but..." from anti-Macron French leftists and I had to keep pointing out that Trudeau isn't much cop either.

Anyway Corbz started off with the "first frontbench team in British parliamentary history to comprise a female majority", sez wikipedia.

Watching QT, red faced Tories out in force again. Burton-on-Trent Branch.

I suppose the hot weather's been a bit tough on them.

Watched Novara instead. Matt Z-C reminds me a little bit of Matt DC. (eyebrows mostly)

I really hope there are no fatal strokes (of bad luck) occurring amongst the less independently wealthy + unhealthy looking tory voting twats. Because they are just going to love the ESA life, especially when they become ill as fuck "benefits scum" themselves!

Mary Anne Charlotte Emma Rees-Mogg.

Emma, not Emily? What the hell? She def got off easy though.

He doesn't appear to expend anything like as much time on names for his female children.

Well he is a "bit of a character" etc...

Slavoj Zizek was just on THIS WEEK making a long attack on 'political correctness' which did not leave Andrew Neil time for a second question. Michael Portillo nodded and Alan Johnson tried not to laugh. It was a very bizarre encounter between different cultural spheres.

Zizek pretty comfortable these days as the Court Jester of the chattering classes, needs to go away imo.

Ya would dispute that Zizek is in a different cultural sphere to Neil or Portillo rly. With Jeremy Clarkson being a somewhat lower profile figure these days, he's stepping into a gap

Zizek did a joint Q+A with Kotkin about his Stalin biography a couple of years back. Big mistake, because Kotkin is a very interesting speaker, but Zizek shitted up almost the whole session with his incessant + ill disciplined rambling routines. I hate seeing him doing his "thing" on UK politics, it might be worth having a hard-right Tory style brexit just to deport this eejit (jokes of course).

I don't like Zizek (though I have found some value in some of his shorter pieces on political events). On the programme he came across as a buffoon, to put it politely.

But he was still something of a radically different on THIS WEEK in his wild eccentricity, endless talk and reference to being a 'philosopher'. The others treated him as a bizarre incomer.

"He's a buffoon but at least he's different" isn't selling this woeful sack of shock-to-order to me

It's why I went for court jester - he's the eccentric it's ok to like, whatever radical potential there might once have been in his politics has been totally drowned in a sea of shtick.

I am not defending him. I don't like him.

The latest YouGov poll has Labour on an 8pt lead. Nothing to celebrate yet tho, it is so disappointing that these fucks are still in government and still maintaining PIP assessments and rolling out Universal Credit. I got a lolsome leaflet about UC from my local authority advising me to have some savings to utilise while going 6-8 weeks without any income. It is rolling out here in November, so it will be a fun Crimbo! If I didn't have the kid's DLA coming in, we would deffo be having our first foodbank trip soon, so at least I can be grateful for something!

Ending up in the shit, just on that last desperate period of power exerted by a dying, nearly defeated government. It's sort of like getting shot at 10am on armistice day!

Ach that is properly shite Calzino - if you want something to celebrate imagine the fear that the 8-point lead has put in Tories Various.

thanx, AF.

Yeah, its exactly a month today since that most enjoyable election night, got to look at the positives still, if they had got that enlarged majority things would be so much bleaker. And for all of us really.

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/new-disabled-mp-accuses-government-of-eugenics/

The disabled MP, Jared O'Mara, (dude who took Clegg's seat) accuses the Tories of eugenics. I had this argument with someone (not on here) that it isn't hysterical or hyperbolic to describe what the Tories are doing to the disabled is as much the same as a policy of eugenics/a kind of "difficult decisions" polite version of the Aktion T4.

This same MP was one of the disabled ones who have been shut out of Parliament debates because of a lack of disabled seating.

He's also why the tie requirement in Parliament has been abandoned.

aye, and cue some tin-eared idiots saying Parliament's esteem has been reduced or something.

esteem reduced not for being full of careerist tabloid-pandering expenses-grubbing humanity-deprived humanity-depriving weasels but for having one or two fewer ties worn

sorry about yr situation calzino

jared o'mara is very likeable, comes across well in this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/disability-40462699/the-only-mp-who-wears-a-t-shirt-in-parliament

jesus, what next? Is Chuka going to tell us to stop being beastly to poor Nick Robinson? She ought to be apologising for ATOS rather than telling us to cut a Tory some slack. And it isn't clever equating "Corbyn extremists" with the type that murdered Cox. But at least Yvette reminds us of what a big-game hunter she is by slagging off Trump.

there's no need for beastliness in politics, it's not like it affects people's lives or anything

Much as Kussenberg's biases are transparent I do think there's a difference between pointing them out and calling her a bitch or whatever and I think Cooper could have forced the point of distinction better. Nobody ever successfully argued a moral point by calling names and denigrating the role of women in society. Nick Robinson is just as reprehensible but I bet the attacks he receives are nowhere near as personal or gendered.

apparently today's Telegraph is full of accounts of self-victimising Tories who people were beastly to during the election campaign, and who like Yvette, want a much nicer type of politics. Where people can get on with rending up the welfare state and the NHS, and folk will be much more civil to them.

i agree boxedjoy, there are plenty of misogynist gobshites of all political stripes on the internet and irl and anybody who wants to make a point using that language can gtfo. i think we've also seen politicians use the language of victimhood, as calz says, when what they really want is not to be challenged at all.

i think that's common with journalists too.

And posters

ouch

otm

as NV points out misogynists are thriving within the whole political spectrum. And Yvette has persistently tried to suggest that Corbyn is somehow responsible, and can click his fingers and go "stop internetting! my army of misogynistic anti-Semites!". But regarding the self-victimising of Tories and centrists, in recent history we have one murdered MP. And she was murdered by someone who would have agreed with May's "citizen of nowhere" rhetoric, and some of the UKIP policies she adopted. I have spent enough time reading depressing blogs about benefits cuts + sanctions induced poverty + related deaths, to see that the victims of austerity much outnumber politicians who have *suffered* recently, by multiples of hundreds of thousands at least to a dozen, or something . And as for Tories (and tbf the last Labour regime aren't blameless here either) not expecting some levels of raw anger at the coal face, after what they have unleashed onto the public in the last 7 years, is disingenuous to say the least. I noticed May isn't complaining about the abuse she suffered at the Grenfell site, at least not publicly anyway.

The bigger picture in this case is surely the revolving door of BBC into the Con Party, notwithstanding the 'liberal BBC' idea. This ought to seem quite outrageous, yet as with most of what the Con Party does it is not even scrutinized.

Maybe the politicians making capital out of defending journos could try to address these real issues rather than carrying on the trash talk.

Was a lazy opportune catchall sing tbh xps