Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

you keep exposing your handle, what else am i to do

can something that's meant to be satire sound kind of messed up when the speaker seems to be bursting blood vessels from rage and 40s? Tell me about Swift the next time some right wing AM dudes talks about putting people in camps as a joke.

t/s: punching up vs punching down

PK if anyone ever shoots up the NYT offices in a baseball crank shirt I will take back everything I've said in support I promise

they go low, we get our ass handed to us over and over lol

hey, the joke cop is here

bursting blood vessels from rage and 40s

now who's trafficking in low rent stereotypes

It's called hyperbole look it up

but really, I listen to about every fifth episode of this show to catch an interesting guest or topic. is there a particular point where they've just gone full-on into condemning people to camps

PK if anyone ever shoots up the NYT offices in a baseball crank shirt I will take back everything I've said in support I promise

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), 5. juli 2017 16:44 (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How about if someone tries to kill Republican congressmen while they practice baseball?

C-

as in Frederik belongs on MSNBC-

Ok is Keyes trolling or does he really think Chapo are the Khmer Rouge

but really, I listen to about every fifth episode of this show to catch an interesting guest or topic. is there a particular point where they've just gone full-on into condemning people to camps

no, for that you need to go to c*m town

it is a stretch for me to be listening to a podcast
double stretch for one called "chapo trap house"

so not gonna listen to something called cum town

How about if someone tries to kill Republican congressmen while they practice baseball?

― Frederik B, Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:36 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That dude didn't go far enough imo

Xpost Worse even. Khmer Rouge never mastered podcasting. That's the trouble with killing the intellectual class.

If you're having to fan yourself with dismay re: joking about exiling Jonathan Chait to the center of the sun just accept that Chapo isn't for you and move on.

listen up, i've been to the center of the sun, that shit's hot.

not just Chait iirc but every public intellectual's USELESS FUCKING ASS

oh i get it, president keyes is peggy noonan

I decided to listen to see what the context of the objectionable joke was

now I'm really confused: so random people on twitter discover wikipedia, respond to Chait's anti-marxism article beat with a list of every fact they just learned about Lenin, and then the CTH guys joke in response to one of the outliers that hey, if we had a boat, it'd go to the sun and we'd throw Chait on it

then there's a several minute repudiation of Chait's neoliberalism apologia (or lack thereof) and war mongering

these guys have made bad jokes before, but how this particular instance is vile, when it starts with a joke kicked off from that basis and immediately followed with analysis of the dude's stances, is ?!?

I figured from context earlier in the thread that they just randomly brought up Lenin's philosopher boats and started listing dudes to go on it or something

I mean, throwing that out without the context it's spinning off of a EVILS OF MARXISM list on twitter and was a tossed-off line right before going into a repudiation of the dude in question's previously published views is some bait and switch

btw I 100% sending Malcolm Gladwell to the sun, but only if he's unable to transmit his book he writes about it on the journey back to earth

how about if we bring back the philosopher ships for http://www.nrcruise.com/

I think enough of those people are blockading the right from consolidating their platform. We just need to send the public "liberals" out to the bermuda triangle for a couple years while we firm up ours

And we expect more top conservatives to join us!

wait, who is already listed on there that they consider a "top conservative?"

nikki haley wants to go, but NK

can we crowdfund a ticket to this for alfred pls

CTH is Rush Limbaugh for the left. That's why it works, that's why it's took off so quickly. It's a rebuke of the ridiculous "when they go low, we go high" strategy. As Matt said in that Harvard Crimson interview, politics should be libidinal, visceral. Joking about sending dull intellectuals in a rocket into the sun is par for the course.

politics should be libidinal, visceral

ew

if we have to get mad about this now do we have to get mad about "die cis scum" shirts next? sounds exhausting.

yeah I see "men are scrum" / "male tears" type stuff everywhere lately

they do love a good scrum tho

hahaha woops

we just moved to agile at work so clearly I have issues to work out

politics should be libidinal, visceral

ew

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:55 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in less, er, bodily terms - notions of compromise, nobility, and civility are obsolete when you're up against a ruthless, atavistic party that will give you no quarter even if you behave properly.

that libidinal, visceral matt christman in full

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/0*IRHQxPXVATAz2sFa.jpeg

otm xp

I wouldn't say Rush Limbaugh, more like The Daily Show for the left. Instead of wry smirks and rallies about why don't we all just agree to disagree, it's irony and anger.

maybe there is value is relentlessly mocking all the terrible centrist pundits I agree are terrible. I just am not sure it's really subversive or anything and the level of analysis i see from the main hosts doesn't seem to go that far beyond mocking centrists for self-servingly hiding behind identity politics. (it's different sometimes when there are guests and i know from reading amber's writing that she is more interesting than the other guys).

i might just be too burned out on US politics to appreciate this show. i wish i could stop consuming media related to US politics but i'm scared to discover the void that i've been filling with that consumption all these years.

i was definitely not making an argument that i am offended by "male tears" jokes wtf. i'm not even "offended" by the show, but i'm not going to cheer on eDgY celebrations of state censorship when i see them

the sort of tribalism on the left that's grown so much in the wake of the democratic primary is itself a tragedy. there is so much posturing and bullshit and the battle lines are completely stupid. "bernie bros," "hilbots," "brocialists," "identitarians," "the resitance," please shoot me into the sun

it's not a fun good time

I think Twitter makes all that seem like more of a real division than it actually is tbh, the vast majority of Hillz voters like Bernie (the reverse is also likely true), and most DSA types are not on social media at all

yeah i agree. that contributes to the bizarre unreality of the discourse chapo has exported in podcast form

and most DSA types are not on social media at all

idk about this...

take it with a grain of salt if you like, but I've seen quite a few instances of chapter heads asking their membership how many even have a Twitter acct and finding out it's very low

from the UK perspective (and I gather there are similarities in the US), the issue has been that centrist pundits (rentoul/hodges/deerin/lewis/cohen/freedland/behr/ganesh etc) have just turned out to be consistently wrong and increasingly so, and so smug, condescending and unwilling to engage with it nor willing to update their analyses for the world as it now actually is. all the while getting paid handsomely to regurgitate their tepid analyses. imo you should be given these platforms (and chunky salaries) based on your insight and demonstrable understanding of the political context imo otherwise its the philosophers' ship* for you. especially when 40% of ppl have just voted for a left platform, it's time that the left gets represented (toynbee doesn't count).

*retirement

no major US newspaper or TV network has an outspoken leftist (as in left-of-the-DNC) on staff that I know of